Who was the best heavyweight boxer ever?

[Vlatko Vukovic]

So i decided to open a thread (expecting that there was no before).

[Joso]

So i decided to open a thread (expecting that there was no before).

Probably Butterbean:

[Sebastianus Rex]

Certainly not Mike Tyson like many retarded teenagers spam on YT just because they see some videos of him demolishing the mediocre boxers of his time.

As soon as he faced big high level boxers like Evander Hollyfield and Lennox Lewis it became evident that he was a rather limited boxer, with a tremendous punch but lacking reach, size, endurance and strategy.

It's hard to say because it's impossible to compare boxers of different times who never fought against each other. And if that would be possible, should we focus on how good a boxer was on his prime or should we decide based on longevity at the top?

Nevertheless I go with the opinion that as time advances the athletes in all sports are in general better prepared, I have no doubt that giants like Tyson Fury or Klitshko who are also very skilled guys would be dominant in all eras.

[PaleoEuropean]

Probably Butterbean:

That dude has had an insane amount of fights, heavyweight boxers usually never last that long.

[Joso]

It seens i misread the title Butterbean was the most fat, i meant, not the best...

[PaleoEuropean]

Certainly not Mike Tyson like many retarded teenagers spam on YT just because they see some videos of him demolish the mediocre boxers of his time.

As soon as he faced big high level boxers like Evander Hollyfield and Lennox Lewis it became evident that he was a rather limited boxer, with a tremendous punch but lacking reach, size, endurance and strategy.

It's hard to say because it's hard to compare boxers of different times who never fought against each other.

ButcI go with the opinion that as time advances the athletes in all sports are better prepared, I have no doubt that giants like Tyson Fury or Klitshko who are also very skilled guys would be dominant in all eras.

Mike had a killer body shot though, he may not be the best, but bodyshot wise is in the the top 5.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Mike had a killer body shot though, he may not be the best, but bodyshot wise in the the top 5.

He was a tremendous puncher no one debates that but on his prime he just fought against bums, there was not much competition in the middle 80's, unlike the 70's and the 90's. He never was able to knock down top fighters on their prime like Hollyfield or Lennox Lewis, he was completely dominated by them.

[PaleoEuropean]

All boxers today know Dempsey was the most influential in terms of technique and probably even power.

[PaleoEuropean]

He was a tremendous puncher no one debates that but on his prime he just fought against bums, there was not much competition in the middle 80's, unlike the 70's and the 90's. He never was able to knock down top fighters on their prime like Hollyfield or Lennox Lewis, he was completely dominated by them.

Very true, his power couldn't make up for his lack of technique.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Certainly not Mike Tyson like many retarded teenagers spam on YT just because they see some videos of him demolish the mediocre boxers of his time.

As soon as he faced big high level boxers like Evander Hollyfield and Lennox Lewis it became evident that he was a rather limited boxer, with a tremendous punch but lacking reach, size, endurance and strategy.

It's hard to say because it's hard to compare boxers of different times who never fought against each other.

ButcI go with the opinion that as time advances the athletes in all sports are better prepared, I have no doubt that giants like Tyson Fury or Klitshko who are also very skilled guys would be dominant in all eras.

I agree that Tyson is not the best if we look whole career, but it is not because of his size, reach or anything other, but because of his character. He was not very competitive, he was a kid who was wishful of fame, and when he got the fame (unifying all heavyweight titles), when he released his coach Kevin Rooney, it really was visible that he has fallen, even before the prison. Tyson in his prime has such speed and punch that heavyweight category never seen before that, so i would say that in his prime, well, maybe can not say he was best ever, but he would be a great challenge for every boxer ever seen. Even so said Lennox Lewis and his manager.

just because they see some videos of him demolish the mediocre boxers of his time.

Well i respect your opinion, but Michael Spinks and Frank Bruno were not "mediocre" boxers for me. There is Larry Holmes too ,but, yeah, he was old bag at the time. Frank Bruno at the time beat Oliver McCall, who beat Lennox Lewis at the time. So statistically, here is the man who beat the man. But it does not matter, just saying. On the other side, with Hollyfield, while head-clashing of them in both matches, Tyson pulled out the thicker end in both fights, and to be honest it affected the fight later. Sadly for Tyson he bite him, since he was winning the third round and coming back to fight.

ButcI go with the opinion that as time advances the athletes in all sports are better prepared, I have no doubt that giants like Tyson Fury or Klitshko who are also very skilled guys would be dominant in all eras.

I would agree with Tyson Fury as perhaps the most skilled boxer, maybe ever. But Klitshcko? I doubt. Perhaps Vitaly would be the challenge for best boxers of 90's because of height advantage but also very strong chin. Wladimir would have problems with strong punchers as Tyson or Holyfield were, because of his weak chin.