Who was the best heavyweight boxer ever?

[Sebastianus Rex]

I agree that Tyson is not the best if we look whole career, but it is not because of his size, reach or anything other, but because of his character. He was not very competitive, he was a kid who was wishful of fame, and when he got the fame (unifying all heavyweight titles), when he released his coach Kevin Rooney, it really was visible that he has fallen, even before the prison. Tyson in his prime has such speed and punch that heavyweight category never seen before that, so i would say that in his prime, well, maybe can not say he was best ever, but he would be a great challenge for every boxer ever seen. Even so said Lennox Lewis and his manager.



Well i respect your opinion, but Michael Spinks and Frank Bruno were not "mediocre" boxers for me. There is Larry Holmes too ,but, yeah, he was old bag at the time. Frank Bruno at the time beat Oliver McCall, who beat Lennox Lewis at the time. So statistically, here is the man who beat the man. But it does not matter, just saying. On the other side, with Hollyfield, while head-clashing of them in both matches, Tyson pulled out the thicker end in both fights, and to be honest it affected the fight later. Sadly for Tyson he bite him, since he was winning the third round and coming back to fight.



I would agree with Tyson Fury as perhaps the most skilled boxer, maybe ever. But Klitshcko? I doubt. Perhaps Vitaly would be the challenge for best boxers of 90's because of height advantage but also very strong chin. Wladimir would have problems with strong punchers as Tyson or Holyfield were, because of his weak chin.

Tyson was very explosive on his prime but he would struggle against big guys, nowadays boxers are on average much bigger and heavier than back then. He also lacked stamina to be an all time great imo, if passed round 5th or 6th it is almost sure Tyson loses.

Of course those boxers you mentioned were not bums but no one dares to point them as great boxers, Spinks and Holmes were good but past their prime, there was really not much competition during the middle 80's, one of the worst decades of heavyweight boxing, there was also no fighters from Eastern Europe (there was still the USSR) and that was a big game changer in the 90's. There was a tremendous amateur boxer Teofilo Stevenson who could have been a great champion, but again Cuba was not open to professional boxing by then.

I think Klitschko is underrated, despite the bad press he was dominant for almost a decade fighting much bigger/heavier guys than Tyson ever did. I think he would keep Tyson at distance and frustrate him, also he was 2mts tall, there was a huge height difference, that is difficult for the much shorter guy.

But then again it's impossible to say for sure, boxing is not an exact science, especially in the heavyheight division all can happen in one night, not always the best boxer wins, a good punch and it's over. But for Tyson I don't see enough consistency and record vs bigger talented guys to put him as one the all time greats. One of the all time punchers yes, but yet I doubt he was a heavier puncher than for example George Foreman.

[Daco Celtic]

1) Ali
2) Joe Louis
3) Rocky Marciano
4) Jack Dempsey
5) Mike Tyson or George Foreman

[Sebastianus Rex]

All boxers today know Dempsey was the most influential in terms of technique and probably even power.

That's something we could discuss, who was the most influential?

Regarding who was the best I already said it's impossible to compare fighters of different eras who never fought each other, however regarding who was the "greatest" as the most legendary, charismatic, inspirational etc...I believe it was Ali.

[Daos777]

Heavy weight = Tyson Fury

There is no way previous champions would be able to beat a 6 foot 8 man with his skill and speed


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[Tooting Carmen]

Frank Bruno? Joe Calzaghe? And nowadays Anthony Joshua, of course.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Heavy weight = Tyson Fury

There is no way previous champions would be able to beat a 6 foot 8 man with his skill and speed


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My opinion also, he would be easily dominant in the past.

Too bad american media acts autistically, for them it seems that heavyweight boxing greats is a restricted club where only americans are allowed...seems like heavyweight history stopped in the 80's.

Fury is arguably the most talented heavyweight ever along with Roy Jones Jr on his prime (who was really not a heavyweight most of his career), besides the size of him...

[Daco Celtic]

Heavy weight = Tyson Fury

There is no way previous champions would be able to beat a 6 foot 8 man with his skill and speed


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John L Sullivan could take him. Sullivan was bare-knuckles

[Gonzalort]

Rocky Marciano

[Daos777]

John L Sullivan could take him. Sullivan was bare-knuckles

I dk lol. What Tyson fury did to Wilder showed how good he really is.


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[Daco Celtic]

I dk lol. What Tyson fury did to Wilder showed how good he really is.


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In the span of 4 hours, John L Sullivan could drink a bottle of whiskey, bang 3 whores, then win a bar-knuckles heavyweight championship fight in 8 rounds. I think Fury would be confused by Sullivan's 1890s low hands stance.