What Amerindian subtype do Kogui,Arhuaco, Wiwa of Colombia belong to? Their phenos seem unique

[Maguzanci]

They look pretty distinct from Amazonians/Brazilids and Istmids of Central America.

So what type do they belong to? Or do they have their own uniquee subtype? They also have higher rates of wavy and curly hair unlike most Natives.

[samario]

They look pretty distinct from Amazonians/Brazilids and Istmids of Central America.

So what type do they belong to? Or do they have their own uniquee subtype? They also have higher rates of wavy and curly hair unlike most Natives.

Many Native Americans in Colombia are mixed. Pijaos from Tolima, for instance, are pretty much mestizos. Some Arhuacos and Wiwas are mixed with Africans and some Chimilas are mixed with Europeans. Kogis are largely unmixed, though.

[Maguzanci]

Many Native Americans in Colombia are mixed. Pijaos from Tolima, for instance, are pretty much mestizos. Some Arhuacos and Wiwas are mixed with Africans and some Chimilas are mixed with Europeans. Kogis are largely unmixed, though.

Would that explain why some Arhuacos have curly hair? But Koguis also have wavy and curlier hair despite being largely unmixed?

What type would Kogis, Arhuacos, etc belong to? They look fairly distinct from both Istmids and Brazilids.

Do Embera also have some SSA or Euro admix?

It seems cultural and lifestyle wise, Kogis, Arhuacos seem to be very intact. They seem to retain their traditional religion and not practice Catholicism?

[Joso]

Idk, from these i'd have guessed Brazilid with some other admixture, they seen to be a bit more robust

[samario]

Would that explain why some Arhuacos have curly hair? But Koguis also have wavy and curlier hair despite being largely unmixed?

What type would Kogis, Arhuacos, etc belong to? They look fairly distinct from both Istmids and Brazilids.

Do Embera also have some SSA or Euro admix?

It seems cultural and lifestyle wise, Kogis, Arhuacos seem to be very intact. They seem to retain their traditional religion and not practice Catholicism?

I'm not sure which phenotypical category they'd fall into. As for genetic composition, I found this document about indigenous communities in northeastern Colombia, which includes Sierra Nevada peoples. Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta is a very endemic environment in all regards. Many of the animal and vegetal species there, for instance, are not to be found anywhere else. Maybe Kogis, Arhuacos, etc. come from very distinctive backgrounds and are also endemic as a result of years of isolation. Either way, Sierra Nevada indigenous tribes are always classed as Chibcha peoples, along with Muisca, Calima, Quimbaya, Guane, Motilon, Nutabe, San Agustin culture peoples, etc.

According to the document, Arhuacos are on average 78% Native American and 21% Subsaharan-African; Chimilas are 67% NA and 29% European; Kogis are 100% Native American. Other indigenous groups like the Wayuu who live in the Guajira peninsula appear to be tri-racials, as they score even amounts of Native, European and SSA ancestry:





Sample size was as follows.

Wayuu
n= 61 samples
Chimila
n= 37
Kogi
n= 33
Arhuaco
n= 27

Also, this other document gives some insight on indigenous populations in West Colombia.

http://www.scielo.org.co/pdf/racefn/...-160-00281.pdf

Emberas and Awas seem to have remained largely untouched, too. Most of their haplogroups on both sides happen to be NA.

Kogis and Arhuacos are well integrated into the community. I saw a few of them in school and university. They were always wearing traditional clothes, though.
They adopted Western livestock and agricultural systems. One of their most known handicrafts is made out of wool. Sheep were introduced by Europeans. A large majority of them is able to communicate in Spanish. They are not that isolated. Whilst they keep much of their culture and traditions, especially Kogis, they have been in close contact with the Western world for a while now. Amazon indigenous peoples might be more isolated.

Valledupar and Santa Marta are near the Sierra Nevada mountain range.

[Maguzanci]

I'm not sure which phenotypical category they'd fall into. As for genetic composition, I found this document about indigenous communities in northeastern Colombia, which includes Sierra Nevada peoples. Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta is a very endemic environment in all regards. Many of the animal and vegetal species there, for instance, are not to be found anywhere else. Maybe Kogis, Arhuacos, etc. come from very distinctive backgrounds and are also endemic as a result of years of isolation. Either way, Sierra Nevada indigenous tribes are always classed as Chibcha peoples, along with Muisca, Calima, Quimbaya, Guane, Motilon, Nutabe, San Agustin culture peoples, etc.

According to the document, Arhuacos are on average 78% Native American and 21% Subsaharan-African; Chimilas are 67% NA and 29% European; Kogis are 100% Native American. Other indigenous groups like the Wayuu who live in the Guajira peninsula appear to be tri-racials, as they score even amounts of Native, European and SSA ancestry:





Sample size was as follows.

Wayuu
n= 61 samples
Chimila
n= 37
Kogi
n= 33
Arhuaco
n= 27

Also, this other document gives some insight on indigenous populations in West Colombia.

http://www.scielo.org.co/pdf/racefn/...-160-00281.pdf

Emberas and Awas seem to have remained largely untouched, too. Most of their haplogroups on both sides happen to be NA.

Kogis and Arhuacos are well integrated into the community. I saw a few of them in school and university. They were always wearing traditional clothing, though.
They adopted Western livestock and agricultural systems. One of their most known handicrafts is made out of wool. Sheep were introduced by Europeans. A large majority of them is able to communicate in Spanish. They are not that isolated. Whilst they keep much of their culture and traditions, especially Kogis, they have been in close contact with the Western world for a while now. Amazon indigenous peoples might be more isolated.

Valledupar and Santa Marta are near the Sierra Nevada mountain range.

Thank you for your response. Im surprised Arhuacos have that much African admixture. The ones I saw on videos and pics don't exhibit much SSA influence in their phenos. Although I have a few pics where some havekinky hair. They seem like Indio-zambos (not sure if appropriate term) genetically.

[Maguzanci]

I'm not sure which phenotypical category they'd fall into. As for genetic composition, I found this document about indigenous communities in northeastern Colombia, which includes Sierra Nevada peoples. Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta is a very endemic environment in all regards. Many of the animal and vegetal species there, for instance, are not to be found anywhere else. Maybe Kogis, Arhuacos, etc. come from very distinctive backgrounds and are also endemic as a result of years of isolation. Either way, Sierra Nevada indigenous tribes are always classed as Chibcha peoples, along with Muisca, Calima, Quimbaya, Guane, Motilon, Nutabe, San Agustin culture peoples, etc.

According to the document, Arhuacos are on average 78% Native American and 21% Subsaharan-African; Chimilas are 67% NA and 29% European; Kogis are 100% Native American. Other indigenous groups like the Wayuu who live in the Guajira peninsula appear to be tri-racials, as they score even amounts of Native, European and SSA ancestry:





Sample size was as follows.

Wayuu
n= 61 samples
Chimila
n= 37
Kogi
n= 33
Arhuaco
n= 27

Also, this other document gives some insight on indigenous populations in West Colombia.

http://www.scielo.org.co/pdf/racefn/...-160-00281.pdf

Emberas and Awas seem to have remained largely untouched, too. Most of their haplogroups on both sides happen to be NA.

Kogis and Arhuacos are well integrated into the community. I saw a few of them in school and university. They were always wearing traditional clothes, though.
They adopted Western livestock and agricultural systems. One of their most known handicrafts is made out of wool. Sheep were introduced by Europeans. A large majority of them is able to communicate in Spanish. They are not that isolated. Whilst they keep much of their culture and traditions, especially Kogis, they have been in close contact with the Western world for a while now. Amazon indigenous peoples might be more isolated.

Valledupar and Santa Marta are near the Sierra Nevada mountain range.

Thank you. Koguis are now fairly well known from the documentary Aluna? I read somewhere they are considered a unconquered modern day pre-columbian civilization sort of like a living fossil?

Which group has more intact culture and lifestyle: Koguis or Emberas?