The name Istanbul

[Arsen_]

I'm aware of that. You are always "waiting". Your ancestors did the same.

This is very good that you admit and recognize that you are a granddaughter of genocidal murderers!

[Bender1999]

This is very good that you admit and recognize that you are a granddaughter of genocidal murderers!

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[eatensemn]

This is very good that you admit and recognize that you are a granddaughter of genocidal murderers!

There's no known murderers in my family. But to be honest, what i know about my family is just a joke. I'm also granddaughter of some australopithecines, australopithecus anamensis, Homo erectus, possibly some neanderthals, etc. I don't know what in the past my ancestors did, who killed whom, raped or something else. It's not possible to learn.

[kundur]

Greeks of the Antiquity who were a successful people ought not to be confused with the post-Roman invasion (150 BC) Greeks who are a different people. There is no continuity between the Antiquity Greeks and Medieval Byzantine folk.
Antiquity Greeks had established many colonies including Marseille in their westernmost reach and a kingdom in Afghanistan in their easternmost reach. Istanbul was built by them as well.
Just as Marseille is French and not Greek, Afghanistan is South-Central Asian and not Greek, Istanbul is also a non-Greek place.

Ancient Greeks disappeared under Roman Empire. The Empire's East adopted Greek language as lingua franca and anyone adopting the Roman religion (paganism first, then Christianity) ended up speaking the lingua franca language and identified as Roman or Rum as we know. People like Armenians, Coptes, Assyrian, Syriac avoided becoming neoGreek or Roman or Rum thanks to their sectarian differences with the Eastern Roman official church.

[Voskos]

Greeks of the Antiquity who were a successful people ought not to be confused with the post-Roman invasion (150 BC) Greeks who are a different people. There is no continuity between the Antiquity Greeks and Medieval Byzantine folk.
Antiquity Greeks had established many colonies including Marseille in their westernmost reach and a kingdom in Afghanistan in their easternmost reach. Istanbul was built by them as well.
Just as Marseille is French and not Greek, Afghanistan is South-Central Asian and not Greek, Istanbul is also a non-Greek place.

Ancient Greeks disappeared under Roman Empire. The Empire's East adopted Greek language as lingua franca and anyone adopting the Roman religion (paganism first, then Christianity) ended up speaking the lingua franca language and identified as Roman or Rum as we know. People like Armenians, Coptes, Assyrian, Syriac avoided becoming neoGreek or Roman or Rum thanks to their sectarian differences with the Eastern Roman official church.

You forgot to clarify that you are not a mongrel of forced armenian converts, islamised mongolians, and hellenized anatolians.

[Epirus DNA]

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Oh Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night

Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

So, Take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Oh Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks
Istanbul

[Tauromachos]

Greeks used to call Constantinoupolis(City of Constantine) simply H Polis(The City)

Eis stin Polin translated by the Turks to I stan bul

[zimt]

Part of my family married into a Greek family and I cringe every time they start talking about "it should be called Constantinople!". None of them have ever even met a Turkish person much less suffered at the hands of Turks. A lot of these debates are LARPing.

[kundur]

Eis tin polis is an assumption, which is also propagated by Greeks.
There is no evidence for the origins of the Istanbul word. No historical evidence or document.

Islamists say that is Islam+bol (much Islam), while others say it is Turkic Asta+Baliq (Slow city).


Something you can't name can't be yours.
Greeks know that, it is why they say that Turks can't name and thus pretend to Istanbul for themselves, just as they pushed forward the Greek name Aegean for the Sea of Islands.

[zimt]

Eis tin polis is an assumption, which is also propagated by Greeks.
There is no evidence for the origins of the Istanbul word. No historical evidence or document.

Islamists say that is Islam+bol (much Islam), while others say it is Turkic Asta+Baliq (Slow city).


Something you can't name can't be yours.
Greeks know that, it is why they say that Turks can't name and thus pretend to Istanbul for themselves, just as they pushed forward the Greek name Aegean for the Sea of Islands.

You ever see My Big Fat Greek Wedding, where the dad was finding a way to claim that everything had Greek origins, including the Japanese word "kimono"? I'd wager that it's in their blood to do that. It makes sense... a glorious civilization turned into a bankrupt country... it does funny things to their way of thinking. Either way, I only see Istanbul on the map, and I don't think that will ever change again. Not in our lifetimes.