Frequency of North African DNA in French people

[Nassbean]

you wish they could choose if goIng, remaining or returning

You lost every debates.

[RyoHazuki]

that's wrong most people in al andalus were muslim iberians called "muladi" and others were mozarabs (iberians who stayed christian but were arabized) : https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulad%C3%AD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozarabs


Berbers and especially arabs were a minority.

Also your land was controlled by many north african tribes you just don't know your own history :

Regardless I do not think I've seen an Iberian get more than 5% NA or African in general.

[PaleoEuropean]

What about the frequency of French DNA in North Africans?

LaDiEs AnD GeNtLeMeN

WE GOT HIM

[Nassbean]

Regardless I do not think I've seen an Iberian get more than 5% NA or African in general.

I didn't say anything regarding their dna here quite the opposite I've defended the fact that muslims in al andalus were local iberians

[Gaditanian]

that's wrong most people in al andalus were muslim iberians called "muladi" and others were mozarabs (iberians who stayed christian but were arabized) : https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulad%C3%AD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozarabs


Berbers and especially arabs were a minority.

Also your land was controlled by many north african tribes you just don't know your own history :

But that map is from a different time from Al-Andalus when the caliphate of Cordoba ended.

For me there are two clear stages in Al-Andalus.

1st Stage from the Dependent Emirate until the end of the Caliphate, which was a great time of prosperity and development thanks to the tolerance of the Islamic leaders with other religions.

This stage is characterized by a cultural and linguistic Arabization of the Hispanic-Romans and the Hispanic-Goths.
Voluntary Arabization because Arabic in these years was a vehicular language with the rest of the Mediterranean and therefore with wealth, commerce and culture.

Arabic in these years would work like English today.

Everyone wanted to know Arabic, and Arabic fashion & culture was the trend.

However, the Arab and Berber racial contribution was minimal. The reason ?, North Africa was also prosperous and rich, there was no need to emigrate to the peninsula except for activities such as those already mentioned, commerce or culture.

2nd Stage, disintegration of the Caliphate and the invasion of the Almoravids and Almohads fanatics. which is the map that you have put.

This stage will be the one that will form in the Castilians the "romantic" vision of The Reconquista.

In a way, The Reconquista doesn't really start with Don Pelayo, but with the disappearance of the Caliphate.

In the first stage, thanks to the tolerance of the Islamic communities with the Christians, they never saw the need to convert to Islam, their faith was more powerful than the fiscal savings that this supposed.

However, the intolerance of almoravides and Almohads will made a persecution of Christians and forced conversions.

This will made a massive emigration of Iberian Christians from the territories of Al-Andalus to the territories of the Christian Kingdoms.

These Christians will told their tragedy to everyone, and will join the troops of the Christian Kingdoms.

This contribution will be essential for La Reconquista, because from that moment on, it will no longer be a battle between Christian Iberians against Muslim Iberians, but rather that of Christian Iberians against Muslim Berbers.

In fact, today there is still a Christian Medieval Order that testifies to these events.

The Order of the Mozarabic Knights of Toledo.

http://www.mozarabesdetoledo.es/cmt_constituciones.htm

[Nassbean]

But that map is from a different time from Al-Andalus when the caliphate of Cordoba ended.

For me there are two clear stages in Al-Andalus.

1st Stage from the Dependent Emirate until the end of the Caliphate, which was a great time of prosperity and development thanks to the tolerance of the Islamic leaders with other religions.

This stage is characterized by a cultural and linguistic Arabization of the Hispanic-Romans and the Hispanic-Goths.
Voluntary Arabization because Arabic in these years was a vehicular language with the rest of the Mediterranean and therefore with wealth, commerce and culture.

Arabic in these years would work like English today.

Everyone wanted to know Arabic, and Arabic fashion & culture was the trend.

However, the Arab and Berber racial contribution was minimal. The reason ?, North Africa was also prosperous and rich, there was no need to emigrate to the peninsula except for activities such as those already mentioned, commerce or culture.

2nd Stage, disintegration of the Caliphate and the invasion of the Almoravids and Almohads fanatics. which is the map that you have put.

This stage will be the one that will form in the Castilians the "romantic" vision of The Reconquista.

In a way, The Reconquista doesn't really start with Don Pelayo, but with the disappearance of the Caliphate.

In the first stage, thanks to the tolerance of the Islamic communities with the Christians, they never saw the need to convert to Islam, their faith was more powerful than the fiscal savings that this supposed.

However, the intolerance of almoravides and Almohads will made a persecution of Christians and forced conversions.

This will made a massive emigration of Iberian Christians from the territories of Al-Andalus to the territories of the Christian Kingdoms.

These Christians will told their tragedy to everyone, and will join the troops of the Christian Kingdoms.

This contribution will be essential for La Reconquista, because from that moment on, it will no longer be a battle between Christian Iberians against Muslim Iberians, but rather that of Christian Iberians against Muslim Berbers.

In fact, today there is still a Christian Medieval Order that testifies to these events.

The Order of the Mozarabic Knights of Toledo.

http://www.mozarabesdetoledo.es/cmt_constituciones.htm

Most of what you said here is correct but you shouldn't underestimate the berber presence during the umayyad caliphate (most of their soldiers were north africans especially in the first centuries and there are plenty of testimonials of the elite giving lands to berber tribes especially in the north)