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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDelarge View Post
    How?
    Have any link? I know Lencastre is a changed surname from Lancaster but i didn't know about Duarte.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_of_Portugal

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    Apparently you are right about Duarte. But as for Edward, we also have the name Eduardo which is a simple adaptation from a germanic name like in other names such as Carlos, Ricardo, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDelarge View Post
    Apparently you are right about Duarte. But as for Edward, we also have the name Eduardo which is a simple adaptation from a germanic name like in other names such as Carlos, Ricardo, etc.
    Edward is rather special to the English, though. The first element Ead- is not seen elsewhere much, if at all. I'd be interested to hear of a non-English usage of this element in other Germanic languages, but until then, I'll call it a specifically English trait in name formation.

    As Wulfhere said, you probably its introduction to the popularity of Edward the Confessor's saintly cult, as well as Philippa's familial connections and filial piety. (Never mind that he was probably one of the most disastrous sovereigns we've ever had).

    Having two distinct names with the same origin is nothing too amazing. There are plenty of parallels. They usually involve a popular assimilated form, and a later reintroduction of a more faithful learned form. We have Jennifer and Gaynor, from the top of my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDelarge View Post
    This worked well for us against Castille and Napoleon, here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aljubarrota
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsular_War

    But the English seem to have "forgotten" about it during the Iberian Union and here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Map

    However, the times the alliance worked was vital for us, so i would say that all in all, the alliance was a good thing.
    1) The Iberian Union ~ Spain - Spain held the power in it.
    2) Rhodesia was ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    1) The Iberian Union ~ Spain - Spain held the power in it.
    2) Rhodesia was ours.
    Yes, "Iberian Union" is a decieving term... it was no union.
    As for the african thing i really don't know or care much about it but England basically threatened us with war. Couldn't they be more diplomatic with their supposed allies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDelarge View Post
    Yes, "Iberian Union" is a decieving term... it was no union.
    As for the african thing i really don't know or care much about it but England basically threatened us with war. Couldn't they be more diplomatic with their supposed allies?
    It was important for the empire at the time to stretch from the Cape to Cairo.
    Cecil Rhodes was very influential regarding British policy in Africa, it was more him than anybody else who pursued it. Rhodes was very well connected in business and government.

    Yes, allies should be treated better than that.

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