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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbian Eagle View Post
    Montenegrins are Serbs, just as Austrians are Germans. Montenegrins, on Serbian Crnogorci, have always called themselves as Serbs, even Milo Djukanovic called himself as a Serb in the 1990s. Serbs and Montenegrins are the same as Germans and Austrians. Austria is separated from Germany, but it is inhabited by Austrians (Germans), as well as Montenegro ( Crna Gora ), it is separated from Serbia but it is inhabited by Montenegrins (Serbs)
    You cant say Montenegrins are Serbs if you say Macedonians are not Bulgarians. Replace Montenegrin into Macedonian and Serbian into Bulgarian in the above mentioned comment. If we use that logic for everyone then that makes sense, otherwise no. You cant have your cake and eat it too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uski View Post
    You cant say Montenegrins are Serbs if you say Macedonians are not Bulgarians. Replace Montenegrin into Macedonian and Serbian into Bulgarian in the above mentioned comment. If we use that logic for everyone then that makes sense, otherwise no. You cant have your cake and eat it too!
    If Montenegrins are not Serbs, then we will call the Albanians from Kosovo and Metohija "Kosovians".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbian Eagle View Post
    If Montenegrins are not Serbs, then we will call the Albanians from Kosovo and Metohija "Kosovians".
    Of course, its just logic that dictates that. It doesnt matter if "kosovians"(?) or who else, if you go by that logic all the time then its fine by me. If kosovo wanted their own identity why tf should i piss myself and cry about it? Even though they dont, if they did we wouldnt stop them. They deserve to be with whoever they want, no matter how simmilar or different. As is the case with EVERYONE. Leave the crnogorcis alone, you can protect your churches and the ones who want to be with you, but being an asshole and telling them what they are ( no matter if theyre wrong ) and exercising your will upon them is moraly wrong. Get over it
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    Montenegro is a different situation to Macedonia. 30% of Montenegro is ethnic Serb, whereas Bulgarians are less than 1% in Macedonia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    Montenegro is a different situation to Macedonia. 30% of Montenegro is ethnic Serb, whereas Bulgarians are less than 1% in Macedonia.
    He claims ALL of them are serbs, just like bulgarians do to you. Plus hes supporting you in thos forum but posts pics of stara srbija in others. And percentages can change quickly, so i wouldnt use that for a comparison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uski View Post
    He claims ALL of them are serbs, just like bulgarians do to you. Plus hes supporting you in thos forum but posts pics of stara srbija in others. And percentages can change quickly, so i wouldnt use that for a comparison
    The difference is that Bulgarians are constant that we do not exist but Serbs sometimes admit that we are/were not Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbian Eagle View Post
    If Montenegrins are not Serbs, then we will call the Albanians from Kosovo and Metohija "Kosovians".
    They are what they say they are but you are free to have an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    They are what they say they are but you are free to have an opinion.
    I can say now that im Donald Trump, but im not. Sometimes people don't want to hear truth cuz they don't want their ilusion to be destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uski View Post
    He claims ALL of them are serbs, just like bulgarians do to you. Plus hes supporting you in thos forum but posts pics of stara srbija in others. And percentages can change quickly, so i wouldnt use that for a comparison

    I can say now that im Donald Trump, but im not. Sometimes people don't want to hear truth cuz they don't want their ilusion to be destroyed. I post a old pics of Macedonia during Serbian Kingdom, Skoplje restauration too, cuz i have a lot of them. Those who wants to be something else, they can be no one forbids him. But they can't change nor hide the truth. You can't compare Macedonia and Montenegro, they are different people, different country. I am not sure that Macedonians are of Bulgarian origin, but I am sure and I know that a lot of Montenegrins are Serbs.

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    Bulgarian claim for Ohrid, Skopje and Bitola are legit.
    First of all, you need to understand the importance of states and state history when these stuff are being discussed. Even though they technically qualify to be Yugoslavians, the Bulgarians were not considered to be such because they had a state when no Slavic people had one. It is why, whereas even the Slovenian people who were part of the German HRE for 1000 years were given to Yugoslavia, Bulgarians were not Yugoslavians and never entered that category.

    Keeping this in mind, Bulgarians have strong arguments to claim Northern Macedonia. Local Fyrom people are ethnically Bulgarians, they do not have any state or ethnic background separate from Bulgaria. Finally, the city of Ohrid served as the capital city of the old Bulgar state for a while.
    Fyromians are even more Bulgarian than the Montenegrins are Serbs in that regard since Montenegrins still have centuries of history separate than Serbia, all the while Macedonian state is a recent fabrication.

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