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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Anyway,

    1.)TheMaestro says I'm stupid for paying for it.

    2.) I can easily prove I'm not stupid for paying for it.

    Here is the free version of the Eurogenes K15 PCA chart :



    My True Ancestry's version :


    Dude, you are in the same position on both. Near English, Dutch & Danish and Irish & Scottish. Only North German appears much closer on K15. And West-Brittany on K15 is instead SW-English (Tolan liked French ref more).

    Moreover Tolan tool is not real PCA like in PAST for example. We can better call it K15 plot not PCA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Anyway,

    1.)TheMaestro says I'm stupid for paying for it.

    2.) I can easily prove I'm not stupid for paying for it.

    Here is the free version of the Eurogenes K15 PCA chart :



    My True Ancestry's version :



    Do you know how many calculators are on gedmatch? You are laughable stock, it's so pathethic, lol. Mytrueancestry with mix of gedmatch calculators, lol. A company that don't even have an headquarters, you think they have samples of all historic ethnics? GHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    Dude, you are in the same position on both. Near English, Dutch & Danish and Irish & Scottish. Only North German appears much closer on K15. And West-Brittany on K15 is instead SW-English (Tolan liked French ref more).
    People will just always defend their opinion and the money they spend in bullshit things, it's hilarious, do those people actually think that those companies legit have database of ancient people/ethnics etc? Its hilarious

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    It was never very accurate for me, I noticed back when it was new that it seemed recycled GEDmatch calculators plus some inaccurate PCA. Glad I never wasted a dime on it. If you wanna know your ancient ancestors, look what locals lived in your ancestral land(s).
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Accuracy and any adna test is pretty mutually exclusive though. 23 is probably the most accurate imo and even then not that accurate in the end. That being said it's not really inaccurate for me from the context of closeness to populations. It recognizes me as a Celto-German which I am. I think looking for an absolute, sure its faulty and gimmicky but it has value for the fact you can easily compare distances to "historic populations".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    Dude, you are in the same position on both. Near English, Dutch & Danish and Irish & Scottish. Only North German appears much closer on K15. And West-Brittany on K15 is instead SW-English (Tolan liked French ref more).

    Moreover Tolan tool is not real PCA like in PAST for example. We can better call it K15 plot not PCA.
    I think it worked for him since he has relatively homogeneous background. With mixed background its less reliable, in my case MTA overlapped me 1:1 over the SW English sample while K15 plot placed me closer to Belgium and France.
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    I think it worked for him since he has relatively homogeneous background. With mixed background its less reliable, in my case MTA overlapped me 1:1 over the SW English sample while K15 plot placed me closer to Belgium and France.
    k15 isn't accurate for me at all compared to k13. K15 like Jtest is designed for people that is from the outside population to compare themselves to a specific population. K15 is a generalized calculator not meant to give accurate readings but to compare you overall to the core population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    People will just always defend their opinion and the money they spend in bullshit things, it's hilarious, do those people actually think that those companies legit have database of ancient people/ethnics etc? Its hilarious
    Buyer's remorse cope
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

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    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    k15 isn't accurate for me at all compared to k13. K15 like Jtest is designed for people that is from the outside population to compare themselves to a specific population. K15 is a generalized calculator not meant to give accurate readings but to compare you overall to the core population.
    I'm aware, just musing how his results say mostly the same thing on both coordinate planes while some people's will show difference.
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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