View Poll Results: Which ethnolect do you prefer?

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  • African-American Vernacular English

    1 7.69%
  • Chicano English

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  • Both in equal measure

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Thread: Which ethnolect do you prefer: African-American or Chicano?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    I don't have a ton of experience with the Chicano dialect so can't really comment on that, but Ebonics just sounds uneducated and ignorant to me.
    Even the more 'educated' varieties as spoken e.g. by most characters in The Cosby Show and The Fresh Prince of Bel Air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Even the more 'educated' varieties as spoken e.g. by most characters in The Cosby Show and The Fresh Prince of Bel Air?
    Hmm, that sort of thing is fine, I suppose. The more lower class or "hood" varieties are just to me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    Hmm, that sort of thing is fine, I suppose. The more lower class or "hood" varieties are just to me though.
    Is the speech used in Moesha just about acceptable to you or not? (Besides the titular character herself, who is pretty middle-class)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Is the speech used in Moesha just about acceptable to you or not? (Besides the titular character herself, who is pretty middle-class)
    This doesn't sound too bad to me, at least compared to what I've heard irl.

    Off topic, but your knowledge of '90s sitcoms is impressive, sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    This doesn't sound too bad to me, at least compared to what I've heard irl.

    Off topic, but your knowledge of '90s sitcoms is impressive, sir
    Yeah I definitely watched too much television as a kid.

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    Stereotypical Ebonics doesn't annoy me (it's amusing sometimes and I dig some slangs), but I have a hard time keeping up with it. Will Smith's way of speaking likely falls under some form of AAVE, he sounds distinctly "black" and educated, I don't see anything wrong with it, like at all.

    I don't know what the Chicano accent sounds like, but I presume it's just something regional with a thick Spanish accent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parça do Neymar View Post
    Stereotypical Ebonics doesn't annoy me (it's amusing sometimes and I dig some slangs), but I have a hard time keeping up with it. Will Smith's way of speaking likely falls under some form of AAVE, he sounds distinctly "black" and educated, I don't see anything wrong with it, like at all.

    I don't know what the Chicano accent sounds like, but I presume it's just something regional with a thick Spanish accent.
    Chicano is Mexican-American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianAlex View Post
    I don't have a ton of experience with the Chicano dialect so can't really comment on that, but Ebonics just sounds uneducated and ignorant to me.
    Would you say even 2nd/3rd generation Hispanics in Miami have a Spanish influence in their speech in English or not really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Would you say even 2nd/3rd generation Hispanics in Miami have a Spanish influence in their speech in English or not really?
    Yes, but that is more due to just the general accent of English there....which has a lot of Spanish influence. I think by 2nd/3rd generation Spanish is not spoken in the household so much, but they usually still know it. Although, there are even some wannabe Anglo first generation folks that forget their last name is Gutiérrez who try and distance themselves from their culture and don't speak the language, so it depends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parça do Neymar View Post
    Stereotypical Ebonics doesn't annoy me (it's amusing sometimes and I dig some slangs), but I have a hard time keeping up with it. Will Smith's way of speaking likely falls under some form of AAVE, he sounds distinctly "black" and educated, I don't see anything wrong with it, like at all.

    I don't know what the Chicano accent sounds like, but I presume it's just something regional with a thick Spanish accent.
    Ebonics is hard to tell apart from other ghetto Southern Dialects . Ebonics comes from blacks immigrating to the west coast during WW2, wasn't common before that.
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