Makedonci pridruzite se!

[JohnnyP]

The only autochthonous Muslims in Serbia are Goranians, former Orthodox Serbs from the area of ​​South Serbia, that is of the Torlak dialect, spoken by Nestokavian Serbs from southern Serbia. However, they also began to be affected by Bosniak propaganda, especially in the south of SAP Kosovo And Metohija, where they were cut off from the Serbs, and Ships liked that Bosniakization, only to eradicate and weaken the Serb element there. But again, the Goranians always hated the Ships from the bottom of their souls, and they had excellent relations with the Serbs. I have never heard Gorani speak badly about Serbia or call for the destruction of Serbia. But that is because it is an autochthonous and purely Serbian ethnic group, which differs only because of Islam with the local Torlak Serbs. Seriously, for the first time in my life I hear that they are "Macedonian Muslims". However, Goranians are strong people, they survived Shiptarisation, Bosniakisation, they will survive this Macedonianisation for sure.

EDIT : Btw Gorani and Torbeshi are Muslim Macedonians, ooh sorry we are all Serbians.

[Uski]

The only autochthonous Muslims in Serbia are Goranians, former Orthodox Serbs from the area of ​​South Serbia, that is of the Torlak dialect, spoken by Nestokavian Serbs from southern Serbia. However, they also began to be affected by Bosniak propaganda, especially in the south of SAP Kosovo And Metohija, where they were cut off from the Serbs, and Ships liked that Bosniakization, only to eradicate and weaken the Serb element there. But again, the Goranians always hated the Ships from the bottom of their souls, and they had excellent relations with the Serbs. I have never heard Gorani speak badly about Serbia or call for the destruction of Serbia. But that is because it is an autochthonous and purely Serbian ethnic group, which differs only because of Islam with the local Torlak Serbs. Seriously, for the first time in my life I hear that they are "Macedonian Muslims". However, Goranians are strong people, they survived Shiptarisation, Bosniakisation, they will survive this Macedonianisation for sure.

Well its not me who is claiming anything my guy. Look Goranis as a group dont have a common consensus on their nationhood. In albania they consider themselves albanian for example, in kosovo they are either serb, Bulgarian, macedonian or just gorani, they are not unanimous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democr...nians_(Kosovo)

Gorani is a part of torlakian, so it is closer to the dialects of macedonian in the west because of geographical reasons

And torlakian, although there is still debates going on about its classification, is currently usually thought of as a branch of eastern south slavic or balkan slavic, and less so as shtokavian



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torlakian_dialect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_South_Slavic

[MegaArgus1]

In my opinion the Orthodox Macedonians have problem in accepting the Muslim Macedonians as Macedonians, the Muslim Macedonians shift as Albanians or Turks.
Bulgaria makes effort to provide them with Passports so some of them have to comply with the requirements posted by the Bulgarian authorities.

[JohnnyP]

Well its not me who is claiming anything my guy. Look Goranis as a group dont have a common consensus on their nationhood. In albania they consider themselves albanian for example, in kosovo they are either serb, Bulgarian, macedonian or just gorani, they are not unanimous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democr...nians_(Kosovo)

Gorani is a part of torlakian, so it is closer to the dialects of macedonian in the west because of geographical reasons

And torlakian, although there is still debates going on about its classification, is currently usually thought of as a branch of eastern south slavic or balkan slavic, and less so as shtokavian



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torlakian_dialect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_South_Slavic

If you ask Gorani what language they speak , they will tell you STAROMAKEDONSKI (Old Macedonian) , old Macedonian - old slavjanic aka Church Language.
Torlakian is variety of StaroMakedonski.

[Vojnik]

Macedonians need to go and evangelise to the Macedonian Muslims and all the Muslims in the country in order to try convert them to the correct faith.

But i will not deny a Macedonian Muslim as a Macedonian. There are thousands living in Turkey today. Alot in Izmir. They were sent there in the citizenship exchange.

[Uski]

If you ask Gorani what language they speak , they will tell you STAROMAKEDONSKI (Old Macedonian) , old Macedonian - old slavjanic aka Church Language.
Torlakian is variety of StaroMakedonski.

Some of them, yes. They are very torn on their identity as of know.

[Uski]

Macedonians need to go and evangelise to the Macedonian Muslims and all the Muslims in the country in order to try convert them to the correct faith.

But i will not deny a Macedonian Muslim as a Macedonian. There are thousands living in Turkey today. Alot in Izmir. They were sent there in the citizenship exchange.

You cant really do that in modern times without expecting some sort of backlash, but i know why you do it and i dont blame you. If i was in your position i would try it too. But im albanian so ofc i would condemn it tis what it is

[Vojnik]

You cant really do that in modern times without expecting some sort of backlash, but i know why you do it and i dont blame you. If i was in your position i would try it too. But im albanian so ofc i would condemn it tis what it is

What backlash? I'm not talking about a forced conversion. I'm talking about people from the church going into those villages where muslims live, standing on the public streets and preaching the gospel.

It happens in modern times all over the world, including the west.

[Uski]

What backlash? I'm not talking about a forced conversion. I'm talking about people from the church going into those villages where muslims live, standing on the public streets and preaching the gospel.

It happens in modern times all over the world, including the west.

Oh ok i wouldnt mind if its not state sponsored. They should be protected and have the right to preach their faith.



Same thing should apply to Muslims proselytizing to christians, of course

[Uski]

Also i said pomaks are macedonian by mistake, they live in bulgaria