Native/Asian=Interracial?

[Synapsid]

I didn't say the guy is Asian. An Indian or an Arab is an Asian too. They are both mongoloid, the guy too, dominantly (around 90%). So I don't consider this race mixing.

What about the ANE in the Mayan guy that the Asian girl lacks?

[Kamal900]

Depends on how you look at it. I mean, MENAs and Europeans for example are both racially Caucasoids or West Eurasians genetically, and yet, socially they're distinct races. It applies to native Americans and Old World Mongoloids or East Eurasians where both of them are racially Mongoloids(most Amerindians are racially paleo-Mongoloids like most SE Asians like Filipinos and even some ancient ones like the Jomon), and yet, because they're very distinct in their cultures and racial phenotypes from their Old World cousins that they got separated from them well since the late paleolithic and early neolithic periods similar to Europeans with other Caucasoid peoples of Asia they're socially distinct from them.

[Chris596]

What about the ANE in the Mayan guy that the Asian girl lacks?

Oh, well, that's another question. I'm not so sure about it anymore. Weren't ,,pure'' ANE types kind of like halfway between Caucasoids and Mongoloids? Some East Asian groups also derived from ANE, no? (I'm not sure)

[Kamal900]

What about the ANE in the Mayan guy that the Asian girl lacks?

It's interesting really since the genetic component is also found in west eurasians or Caucasoid peoples like Europeans and MENA's(I'm over 27% of it). To this very day, it's unknown if they ancient North Eurasians were some extinct race of humans or perhaps were proto-Caucasoid peoples of Eurasia. I myself don't know how and where did both west eurasians and amerindians got this genetic component in such high frequency in the first place.

[Synapsid]

Oh, well, that's another question. I'm not so sure about it anymore. Weren't ,,pure'' ANE types kind of like halfway between Caucasoids and Mongoloids? Some East Asian groups also derived from ANE, no? (I'm not sure)

Upper Palaeolithic Siberians (ANS) were predominately Early West Eurasians/Paleo-Europeans, even in the Western Edges of Beringia. Yana-1 and Yana-2 were ANS (ancient North Siberian) and was very similar to MA-1/ANE, and they can be modelled as a 73% EWE (on the Kostenki-14-Sunghir-Proto Gravettian/Buryan-Kaya/Vestonice clade) and 27% ENA/Early East Asian. Ancestral Native Americans split of from the Kolyma like Ancient Paleo-Siberian (AP) around 23,000 kya which was a population modelled as 40% ANE (not ANS) and 60% EEA/North East Asian carrying the cold adapted EDAR variant 370A.

[Chaos One]

IMO yes. The MENA x European is a good example.

[Synapsid]

It's interesting really since the genetic component is also found in west eurasians or Caucasoid peoples like Europeans and MENA's(I'm over 27% of it). To this very day, it's unknown if they ancient North Eurasians were some extinct race of humans or perhaps were proto-Caucasoid peoples of Eurasia. I myself don't know how and where did both west eurasians and amerindians got this genetic component in such high frequency in the first place.

Its complex lol. Basically you have the First Anatomically modern Humans migrating to the European continent which was Oase-1 around 45,000 who a genetic dead end, then came Early West Eurasian hunter gatherers coming into Europe from Western Russian, with a split in Early West Eurasians resulting in two hunter Gatherer Clades around 40,000-35,000 kya:
-the Kostenki-Sunghir (KS) clade
-the Common west Eurasian clade

KS clade was the Ancestors of a Predominantly West Eurasian Siberian group called ANE (malta boy) and Common Western Eurasian clade is probably ancestral to Villabruna WHG (mesolithic foregers in Europe) and the Near Eastern UHG in Dzuzuana/Post Glacial Near Easterners (PGNE). The Common west Eurasians then began to mix with the KS clade around 30,000 kya to form a genetically distinct Hunter gatherer population called the Vestonice cluster. This Vestonice population was responsible for the blooming the gravattian culture in Ice age Europe but they could not survive increasingly harsh condition of the last glacial maximum around 25,000-20,000 and were subsequently replacement by another genetically distinct Paleo-Europeans population called the Magdelanian and the Solutreans (who were also a KS-clade+Common West Eurasian mix but in different ratio compared to the Vestonice/Gravettians). But even the Magdelanians could not last long in the changing environment of the Epi-Palaeolithic and were subsequently replaced by the Mesolithic WHG (except in mixed form in Iberia). What makes Mesolithic Hunter gatherers different from Palaeolithic gatherers is that there was a replacement of the KS-clade+Common West Eurasian mix (Vestonice/Magdelanian/Solutreans) by a Mesolithic population called the Villabruna cluster (WHG) which is almost 90% Common West Eurasian. WHG (Cheddar man's people) is probably 90% Common west Eurasian and 10% ANE. Why did the Common West Eurasians out compete the Vestonice? I have no idea, since they are both Hunter gatherers. Probably Hunting strategy or ANE-related technology such as pressure point technology. In-stark contrast to Ice age Europe, North East Siberia/Beringia did not face so much subsequent replacements like in Europe. Amerindians are the direct decedent of the Ancient-Paleosiberian like populations that inferred from the Kolyma aDNA samples (AP-1). So Proto-Amerindians had a mixture of East Asian and Paleo-European (ANE related) ancestry. In the western siberian tundra, these ANE spread in every direct in Western Eurasia from 17,000-7,800 BCE. In the south, ANE mixed the middle eastern Dzudzuana hunter gathers (73 % Proto-WHG/UHG and 27% Basal Eurasian) to form neolithic Iranians and Caucasus Hunter Gathers. In Eastern Europe, ANE mixed with WHG to form the Eastern Hunter Gatherers (EHG) and genetic studies show that the pale Northern European skin tone comes from these people (remember the SLC45 gene variant). In Anatolia, there a pure Dzudzuana population that was never mixed out, and after having some interaction with the levantine natufians (world first farmers) these Dzudzuana people became the Anatolian neolithic farmers who then expanded through out the European continent around 7,000 years ago.

You likely got that high ANE from Iranian farmer/Caucasus ancestry in the Levant, and steppe

[Kyp]

Logic of TA:

Greek and Levantine = Interracial
Native American and SE Asian = not interracial

lol

[Maguzanci]

Logic of TA:

Greek and Levantine = Interracial
Native American and SE Asian = not interracial

lol

It is logical fallacy lol. Since Native Americans and SE Asians are like 100× much more divergent genetically (look at their population distance on G25) than Greeks and Levantines are to one another.

Also the girl is ethnic chinese from thailand so she can also be considered ethnically east asian racially speaking (but doesn't matter much as SE Asians and East Asians are like 100× much closer to one another genetically than SE Asians are to Native Americans)

[Sora]

They're only four races in the world:

Caucasoids(Europeans, West Asians, North Africans & -at signifincant portion-South Asians)
Mongoloids(East Asians, Southeast Asians, Siberians & Amerindians-both North & South-)
Negroids(SSA)
Australoids(Aborgines, Pacific Natives)

So an East Asian x Native mix wouldn't really be interracial but not fully Mongoloid also, since Amerindians have 40% ANE and the most part of ANE is Caucasoid. Also an European x MENA mix wouldn't be really interracial too