Post both your updated Vahaduo K13 and K15 single pop results :

[JamesBond007]

So, I used to criticize Eurogenes because K13 said I was 'Irish' and K15 said I was English but now they both agree I am English which makes more sense than G25 modern averaged scaled sheet which has me as Dutch :

I'm either paleo-atlantid or north-atlantid :



England = 25% Keltic Nordic (derived from pre-Roman invaders), 15% Anglo-Saxon (post-Roman Germanic invaders, most common in the southeast, especially East Anglia), 15% Brünn {indigenous Paleolithic inhabitants}, 15% North-Atlantid and 10% Palaeo-Atlantid (blend of Mesolithic Atlanto-Mediterranean invaders with both earlier and later arrivals; most common in the Midlands and northwest), 8% Hallstatt Nordic (of Viking and Norman derivation), 5% Trønder (of Norwegian Viking derivation; most common in the northeast), 3% Borreby and 2% Fälish (both of Viking and Norman derivation; associated with the landed gentry; source of the "John Bull" type), 2% Noric (from Bronze-Age invaders) = 100% Nordish (73% central and 27% periphery types)


Eurogenes Vahaduo K15 updated

Distance to: Kevin
2.37520525 English_Midlands
2.65992481 Welsh
2.70270235 English_North
2.81662919 England
2.88652040 Dutch
3.75050663 Scotland
4.22808467 Southwest_English
4.31929392 Southeast_English
4.41881206 North_Dutch
4.97456531 West_Scottish
5.04011905 Irish
5.14975728 Orcadian
6.15706911 North_German
6.45000775 Danish
6.96861536 Belgium
7.17009065 Norway
7.67802709 Norwegian
7.84291400 Swedish
8.16741697 South_Dutch
8.65738991 West_Norwegian
8.84203596 North_Swedish
9.11516319 West_German
10.44853578 German_Bavarian
12.13928746 North_Swedish
13.10412912 French


Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 updated


Distance to: Kevin
3.56908952 English_Midlands
3.88243480 Irish
4.00098738 Welsh
4.15497292 English
4.17688879 Scottish
4.28316472 English_North
4.42910826 Orcadian
4.84246838 West_Scottish
5.40641286 Southwest_English
5.71061293 North-Dutch
6.30891433 Southeast_English
7.10757343 Norwegian
7.15918990 North_German
7.45373061 Danish
7.54085539 German_West
9.63037382 South_Dutch
9.90812798 Swedish
10.87818919 West_German
14.78477934 Swiss_German
15.67330214 French
16.46001215 Austrian
16.52131653 North-Swedish
16.73895755 East_German
17.58087029 Swiss_French
19.14959791 German_east

[Halgurd]

I’d say overall k13 is more accurate. Who needs g25 when you have a perfectly working calculator like this.

K13

Distance to: Halgurd
3.86155409 Kurdish
4.91391901 Kurd_Sorani
5.12812831 Kurd_Iran
5.14094349 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
5.31680355 Talysh
5.61853184 Zaza
6.44654946 Iranian
6.45146495 Lor_Iran
6.78301555 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.83339593 Turkmen_Iraq
6.89409893 Azeri
7.96743999 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.52567886 Turk_East
9.17221892 Turk_South_East
9.26525229 Armenian_East
10.88272484 Iran_Centraleast
11.76587013 Georgian_Jewish
12.20090980 Armenian_West
12.53008380 Turk_Meskhetian
12.77817671 Turkish_mixed
13.30272904 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.55033210 Greek_Caucasus
13.88559325 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.23899575 Laz
14.28572364 Turk_Central_East

K15

Distance to: Halgurd
5.76537943 Kurd
7.49423779 Azerbaijani
8.56206751 Iranian_Lur
8.78473676 Iranian_Persian
9.34193770 Armenian_East
9.59787476 Iranian_Mazandarani
10.60144330 Turkish_East
11.33802452 Georgian_Jew
11.57818639 Armenian_West
12.71048386 Turkish_Kayseri
12.73055773 Turkish_Anatolia
13.42002981 Greek_Trabzon
13.63459570 Turkish_Adana
14.08645094 Assyrian
14.64919793 Azeri_Dagestan
15.18420890 Turkish_Trabzon
15.19191890 Turk_Meskhetian
16.12951952 Georgian_Laz
18.47964827 Kurdish_Jew
19.71134699 Turkish_Aydin
20.05243127 Turkmen
20.24217874 Iranian_Jew
20.51013164 Lebanese_Muslim
21.52184007 Iranian_Bandari
21.53173472 Syrian

[Creoda]

So, I used to criticize Eurogenes because K13 said I was 'Irish' and K15 said I was English but now they both agree I am English which makes more sense than G25 modern averaged scaled sheet which has me as Dutch :

I'm either paleo-atlantid or north-atlantid :



England = 25% Keltic Nordic (derived from pre-Roman invaders), 15% Anglo-Saxon (post-Roman Germanic invaders, most common in the southeast, especially East Anglia), 15% Brünn {indigenous Paleolithic inhabitants}, 15% North-Atlantid and 10% Palaeo-Atlantid (blend of Mesolithic Atlanto-Mediterranean invaders with both earlier and later arrivals; most common in the Midlands and northwest), 8% Hallstatt Nordic (of Viking and Norman derivation), 5% Trønder (of Norwegian Viking derivation; most common in the northeast), 3% Borreby and 2% Fälish (both of Viking and Norman derivation; associated with the landed gentry; source of the "John Bull" type), 2% Noric (from Bronze-Age invaders) = 100% Nordish (73% central and 27% periphery types)


Eurogenes Vahaduo K15 updated

Distance to: Kevin
2.37520525 English_Midlands
2.65992481 Welsh
2.70270235 English_North
2.81662919 England
2.88652040 Dutch
3.75050663 Scotland
4.22808467 Southwest_English
4.31929392 Southeast_English
4.41881206 North_Dutch
4.97456531 West_Scottish
5.04011905 Irish
5.14975728 Orcadian
6.15706911 North_German
6.45000775 Danish
6.96861536 Belgium
7.17009065 Norway
7.67802709 Norwegian
7.84291400 Swedish
8.16741697 South_Dutch
8.65738991 West_Norwegian
8.84203596 North_Swedish
9.11516319 West_German
10.44853578 German_Bavarian
12.13928746 North_Swedish
13.10412912 French


Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 updated


Distance to: Kevin
3.56908952 English_Midlands
3.88243480 Irish
4.00098738 Welsh
4.15497292 English
4.17688879 Scottish
4.28316472 English_North
4.42910826 Orcadian
4.84246838 West_Scottish
5.40641286 Southwest_English
5.71061293 North-Dutch
6.30891433 Southeast_English
7.10757343 Norwegian
7.15918990 North_German
7.45373061 Danish
7.54085539 German_West
9.63037382 South_Dutch
9.90812798 Swedish
10.87818919 West_German
14.78477934 Swiss_German
15.67330214 French
16.46001215 Austrian
16.52131653 North-Swedish
16.73895755 East_German
17.58087029 Swiss_French
19.14959791 German_east

I made that English Midlands average from 10 local kits. Ideally I'd like to get 20 for it, as well as for English_North. Also make averages for Leinster, Connacht and Munster.

And you're not Paleo-Atlantid. Just Atlantid.

[Chris596]

Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 Updated

2.77447292 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
2.99006689 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.05632132 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
3.13663833 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
3.22116439 Bosniak
3.23549069 Serb
3.25511905 Serb_Serbia
3.32863335 Serb_Croatia
3.62229982 Bosniak_Sarajevo
3.62474827 Romania_Maramures
3.63550547 Serb_B&H
3.64406367 Serb_B&H_Krajina
3.76528883 Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
3.81714553 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
3.87178254 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.92103303 Moldova_Centre
3.95246758 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.08115180 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
4.24228712 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
4.29129351 Croat_B&H
4.47843793 Hungarian_Csango
4.50558542 Serb_Herzegovina
4.54726291 Moldova_average
4.69229155 Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner
4.69476304 Romania_Crisana

My results are made up of pretty much just Balkanic populations, my top 150 results are all below 20 and it's just East European Slavic and Turkish, Turkic nations (so very accurate in my opinion)

Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 Updated

4.94220599 Bosniak
5.27331964 Romania_Ne
6.39380189 Bosnian
7.21506194 Serbian_Bosnia
7.36702111 Romania_Sw
7.56411925 Romania_Nw
7.62556719 Szekely
7.78319343 Romanian
8.34528609 South_Serbian
8.81896241 Macedonian
9.10900653 Moldavian
9.12005482 Croatian
9.22196291 Romania_South
9.29368603 Serbian
9.39607777 Montenegrin
9.57222022 Bulgarian
9.91072457 Slovenian
11.35310090 Austrian
11.54062823 Romania_Se
11.83394693 Hungarian
11.84613861 Kaykavian_Croatian
11.97117110 Croat_Bosnia
12.56752561 Gagauz
13.13003427 Macedonian_2
13.72896573 Czech

[Blemoir]

K13

7.53572160 Liguria
7.64598587 Emilia
8.16102935 Tuscany
8.39603478 Tuscan
8.74559889 Lombardy
9.01099883 Piedmont
9.25058377 Romagna
9.54490964 Veneto
9.84275876 Friuli-VG
9.94757759 Umbria
10.28076359 FrenchCorsica
10.73653110 Marche
10.82878109 Lazio
11.06901531 Swiss_Italian
11.27385914 Swiss-Italian
11.53712703 Trentino
13.06709608 Portuguese
13.18496871 Greek_Central-Macedonia
13.29271981 Spanish_Extremadura
13.78430629 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
13.84603553 Albanian_north_Albania
13.88568327 Albanian_Macedonia
13.91486256 West_Sicilian
13.97239779 Albanian_Kosovo
13.97924533 Albanian_south_Albania

K15

8.06817823 Italy_Liguria
8.66331923 Italy_Tuscany
9.02034367 Tuscan
9.12939209 Italy_Emiliaromagna
9.57933192 Italy_Lombardy
10.33307795 Italy_Veneto
10.49851418 Italy_Friuli
11.03661180 France_Corsica
11.20780978 Italy_Piedmont
11.42604919 Italy_Marche
11.51736949 Italy_Lazio
12.15694863 Spanish_Extremadura
12.47476252 Spanish_Murcia
12.75557525 Portuguese
12.89837974 Italy_Trentino
13.29925186 West_Sicilian
13.62606326 Albanian-Kosovo
13.85402469 Albanian-Macedonia
13.95559744 Spanish_Andalucia
14.16325881 Albanian-South
14.21744351 Spanish_Galicia
14.26654829 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
14.40125843 Kosovo_Albanian
14.64649105 Spanish_Cataluna
14.82820960 Albanian-North

[Gründig]

K15
Distance to: G
3.70199946 German_Bavarian
5.07261274 South_Dutch
6.90554125 Belgium
7.79351012 North_German
7.79404260 Austria-Tyrol
8.23745713 Austria-Burgenland
8.75599794 French
8.88010698 West_German
9.41241202 East_German
9.81033129 Southwest_English
10.37706124 Southeast_English
10.62625522 England
10.66115847 Dutch
10.73942736 English_North
11.07022583 English_Midlands
11.52571473 Welsh
11.54575247 North_Dutch
11.60542115 Italy_Aostavalley
11.62628488 Irish
11.91464645 Austrian
12.61438068 West_Scottish
12.61570450 Scotland
13.71497721 Hungarian
13.83536411 Danish
14.02068829 Kaykavian_Croatian

K13
Distance to: G
3.66582869 West_German
4.93688161 Swiss_German
5.00747441 South_Dutch
5.28513008 German_West
6.58058508 Austrian
7.86701341 Swiss_French
8.75086281 East_German
8.98581660 North_German
9.82529898 French
10.27693534 Danish
10.37204898 English_North
10.41382255 English
10.78989805 Southeast_English
10.96655370 English_Midlands
11.65640039 Hungarian_Transdanubia
12.26534549 Orcadian
12.45971910 North-Dutch
12.49933449 Hungarian_Budapest
12.56593013 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
12.73086800 AostaValley
12.79985937 Southwest_English
12.88727279 Welsh
12.99079289 Swedish
13.29010158 German_east
13.35322433 Irish

[Ion Basescul]

Distance to:	IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA
3.19762900	Hungarian_Csango
3.80711177	Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
3.83867165	Bosniak
3.86701435	Serb_B&H
3.87171362	Hungarian_Transylvania
3.90599539	Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
3.96426295	Hungarian_Szekely
4.05217423	Bosniak_Sarajevo
4.06057878	Serb_B&H_Krajina
4.08931535	Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
4.17964113	Serb_Serbia_West&Central
4.18390965	Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.20414082	Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
4.47792363	Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.49958887	Serb
4.53342034	Serb_Croatia
4.54619621	Romania_Maramures
4.57853688	Romania_Moldavia_North
4.59415934	Croat_B&H
4.80762935	Moldova_North
4.84764891	Serb_Serbia
4.90211179	Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
5.05399842	Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
5.14678540	Romania_Moldavia_average
5.24420633	Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj

---

Distance to:	IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage
5.37452472	Bosniak_Sarajevo
5.70785424	Moldova_Centre
5.73422183	Moldova_North
5.76028645	Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
5.94440073	Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
6.03741667	Bosniak
6.14699927	Romania_Moldavia_North
6.20797874	Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
6.31818803	Serb_B&H_Krajina
6.34094630	Serb_Serbia_West&Central
6.35848252	Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
6.48927577	Romania_Maramures
6.50612788	Croat_B&H
6.51420755	Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.69105373	Serb_B&H
6.77267303	Moldova_average
6.97524910	Serb
6.98406042	Serb_Croatia
7.07349277	Serb_Serbia
7.11413074	Hungarian_Csango
7.19744399	Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
7.33464382	Romania_Moldavia_average
7.38562117	Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.45707047	Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
7.51348787	Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner

---

Distance to:	IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage
4.93850180	Moldova_North
5.09970587	Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
5.23359940	Bosniak_Sarajevo
5.81316609	Bosniak
5.84220849	Croat_B&H
5.85626161	Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.90809614	Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
5.92460969	Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
5.95138639	Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
6.05209485	Hungarian_Transylvania
6.10351538	Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
6.11495963	Hungarian_Csango
6.29980158	Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
6.30215043	Croat
6.37525686	Serb_B&H
6.49438989	Croat_Croatia
6.50986943	Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
6.54362285	Serb_B&H_Krajina
6.55726315	Serb_Serbia_West&Central
6.58344368	Hungarian_Szekely
6.61845148	Romania_Moldavia_North
6.98924889	Croat_B&H_Bosnia
7.00306362	Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
7.05762000	Serb_Croatia
7.10104922	Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina

---

Distance to:	IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage
5.33507263	Moldova_North
5.42625101	Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
5.70160504	Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
5.79529487	Bosniak_Sarajevo
6.25439046	Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.49678382	Croat_B&H
6.75053331	Bosniak
6.83921048	Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
6.92196504	Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
7.01856823	Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
7.05067373	Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner
7.09270047	Romania_Maramures
7.17453831	Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
7.19788163	Moldova_Centre
7.45120796	Serb_Serbia_West&Central
7.46808543	Serb_B&H
7.76884161	Croat
7.89217334	Serb_B&H_Krajina
7.94353825	Serb_Croatia
7.99834983	Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
8.07935022	Croat_Croatia
8.13494929	Croat_B&H_Bosnia
8.28671226	Serb
8.31266504	Serb_Serbia
8.38738934	Romania_Moldavia_North

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

K13

Distance to:	Viriato
3.23292437	Portuguese
3.93624186	Spanish_Extremadura
4.88668599	Spanish_Galicia
5.04575069	Spanish_Murcia
5.26206233	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
5.60081244	Swiss-Italian
5.65020354	Spanish_Andalucia
5.68664224	Spanish_Cataluna
6.00774500	Spanish_Valencia
6.37721726	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.80600470	Piedmont
7.19443535	Swiss_Italian
7.46456295	AostaValley
8.11696988	Spanish_Cantabria
8.20635729	Lombardy
8.46095148	Trentino
8.49180193	Veneto
9.89720162	Spanish_Aragon
10.18237202	Liguria
10.28382225	Southwest_French
10.42528177	Friuli-VG
11.19542317	Emilia
11.36765587	French
12.18064038	Swiss_French
12.72202028	Tuscany

K15

Distance to:	Viriato
3.72943695	Portuguese
4.64945158	Spanish_Extremadura
5.30538406	Spanish_Murcia
5.95713857	Spanish_Galicia
6.04763590	Spanish_Cataluna
6.43324180	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
6.74649539	Italy_Piedmont
7.71746720	Spanish_Andalucia
8.04015547	Spanish_Valencia
8.14915333	France-South
8.32299826	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
8.65254876	Italy_Lombardy
8.65502744	Spanish_Cantabria
9.11709932	Italy_Veneto
9.77480435	Italy_Trentino
10.17882606	Italy_Aostavalley
10.27766997	Italy_Liguria
10.44439563	Spanish_Aragon
10.48922304	Italy_Friuli
10.99508072	Southwest_French
12.61143529	Italy_Tuscany
12.83151589	French
13.13081871	Italy_Emiliaromagna
14.26128325	Austria-Tyrol
15.03297708	Tuscan

[Dr_Maul]

K15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 4.57
2 Kurdish 5.27
3 Azeri 7.89
4 Georgian_Jewish 11.56
5 Turkish 11.93
6 Armenian 12.13
7 Assyrian 12.67
8 Iranian_Jewish 14.02
9 Turkmen 16
10 Kurdish_Jewish 16.06
11 Lebanese_Muslim 18.18
12 Kumyk 18.93
13 Syrian 19.09
14 Makrani 20.49
15 Cyprian 22.05
16 Lezgin 23.01
17 Adygei 23.04
18 Georgian 23.09
19 Lebanese_Christian 23.35
20 Lebanese_Druze 23.5

K13
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 4.04
2 Kurdish 5.36
3 Azeri 7.51
4 Georgian_Jewish 11.2
5 Armenian 11.62
6 Turkish 12.58
7 Assyrian 13.59
8 Iranian_Jewish 15.2
9 Kumyk 15.55
10 Kurdish_Jewish 16.16
11 Georgian 17.06
12 Turkmen 17.22
13 Adygei 17.69
14 Abhkasian 18.12
15 Balkar 19.5
16 Ossetian 20.13
17 Lebanese_Muslim 20.25
18 Kabardin 20.29
19 North_Ossetian 20.32
20 Syrian 20.84

[Kyp]

Father:
K13:

Spoiler!

Distance to: Father_k13
5.11747985 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.77252111 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.14121324 Azeri
8.14106258 Talysh
8.17735287 Turk_East
8.38862325 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
8.52766088 Zaza
8.55701467 Turk_South_East
9.12859792 Kurd_Sorani
9.57488381 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.81257866 Kurdish
10.02913755 Turk_Central_East
10.12006423 Turkish_mixed
10.13047383 Lor_Iran
10.27372863 Iranian
10.37165368 Kurd_Iran
10.38467140 Turkmen_Iraq
10.90130726 Turk_Anatolia
10.90635136 Turk_South
11.31431836 Iran_Centraleast
12.45664080 Turk_Central_West
12.67154687 Turkmen
13.60760449 Kumyk
13.74723245 Armenian_East
14.35754854 Turk_North_West

K15:

Spoiler!

Distance to: Father15
7.35138082 Azerbaijani
9.76744593 Iranian_Persian
10.66624583 Turkish_Kayseri
10.69580292 Iranian_Lur
11.00562129 Turkish_Anatolia
11.99211408 Turkmen
12.03469983 Turkish_Adana
12.17793907 Iranian_Mazandarani
13.40443210 Kurd
13.65325602 Turkish_Aydin
13.93853651 Azeri_Dagestan
14.94150595 Turkish_East
15.09519791 Armenian_East
15.74479597 Turkish_Balikesir
16.11475721 Armenian_West
16.77208395 Georgian_Jew
16.88710751 Iranian_Bandari
17.45507376 Greek_Trabzon
19.02999737 Turk_Meskhetian
19.11405504 Assyrian
20.04760834 Turkish_Trabzon
20.41432830 Georgian_Laz
21.90533497 Afghan_Uzbeki
21.97295838 Afghan_Tadjik
22.57679118 Lebanese_Muslim

Mother:
K13:

Spoiler!

Distance to: Mother13
5.20588129 German_West
5.99438904 West_German
6.14463994 South_Dutch
6.33061608 Austrian
7.10468859 East_German
7.35611310 Swiss_German
8.19727394 North_German
8.74442680 Danish
9.44261616 English_North
9.57995303 English
10.14405737 Swiss_French
10.17086525 English_Midlands
10.26641612 Southeast_English
10.98442079 Swedish
11.24321573 Orcadian
11.27713616 German_east
11.38771268 North-Dutch
11.53743039 French
11.76141148 Welsh
11.92561356 Hungarian_Transdanubia
12.00084164 Southwest_English
12.17318775 Norwegian
12.34763945 Irish
12.54586385 Hungarian_Budapest
12.65812782 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar

K15:

Spoiler!

Distance to: Mother15
5.64333235 German_Bavarian
6.27780216 South_Dutch
6.52205489 North_German
6.82636799 Austria-Burgenland
6.95627055 East_German
8.14143108 Belgium
9.04780084 West_German
9.97098791 Southwest_English
9.99414328 Dutch
10.07683978 English_North
10.10708168 Austria-Tyrol
10.25261918 North_Dutch
10.26522284 Southeast_English
10.45768139 England
10.78555052 English_Midlands
10.82850405 French
10.97329030 Irish
10.98931299 Austrian
11.43613571 Czech
11.86719849 Hungarian
12.03392288 Danish
12.03786526 West_Scottish
12.06218886 Swedish
12.11340167 North_Swedish
12.14992181 Scotland