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    Where was this
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    Also North Korea attacked South Korea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    I was about to post this thanks, yeah it seems the PLA f'ed up the Indians Dokam. Even a colonel was killed!
    umm lol china didnt even report how many people were tested for corona while most countries did. you think they'll report how many people are injured/dead on their side? Apparently China has less cases than canada (country with 38 million vs. 1.4 billion).
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...041240570.html
    China's defence ministry confirmed late on Tuesday that there had been casualties, without giving a number, while its state media stayed relatively quiet on the skirmish, the most violent in decades.
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    When I first heard about this days ago or whenever it was, someone was reporting the Chinese had 40 something casualties
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    umm lol china didnt even report how many people were tested for corona while most countries did. you think they'll report how many people are injured/dead on their side? Apparently China has less cases than canada (country with 38 million vs. 1.4 billion).
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...041240570.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westbrook View Post
    When I first heard about this days ago or whenever it was, someone was reporting the Chinese had 40 something casualties
    yeah ive seen that but it only came from indian and taiwanese sources so thats why im skeptical of that number. However, China on pretty much all articles did state that there were some casualties on the chinese side but they didnt mention how many of them were killed/injured.
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    Thats very serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Thats very serious
    You're right, it's serious business. People can crack crude jokes about the people there, but I'm not laughing.

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    Another such thread already exists. Let's ask for them to be merged.



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    I'd be more inclined to believe Indian and Taiwan sources anyway
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    yeah ive seen that but it only came from indian and taiwanese sources so thats why im skeptical of that number. However, China on pretty much all articles did state that there were some casualties on the chinese side but they didnt mention how many of them were killed/injured.

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    It would be kind of interesting to see how capable and competent both sides are in real modern warfare though. How long has it been since the Chinese were put to the test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westbrook View Post
    It would be kind of interesting to see how capable and competent both sides are in real modern warfare though. How long has it been since the Chinese were put to the test?
    Perhaps, we have to go back to 1987, to find the 2 countries at the verge of fighting and bloodshed. India had granted a Statehood Status for Arunachal Pradesh, and that triggered a bellicose response from the People's Republic of China. Diplomats believed that a war would break out, but war was averted by diplomatic discussions. India retained its authority over Arunachal Pradesh.

    The last violent confrontation occurred in 1967, 20 Years before 1987, and 53 years before the current dispute. That time, the Chinese were repulsed in a battle at Nathu La (1967), and then lost some ground, in a second battle at Cho La (1967).

    The severity of the Chinese defeats, in 1967, is reflected by the casualties: Some 340 Chinese died in the fighting, and another 450 were wounded; while, some 88 Indians died in the fighting, and another 163 were wounded.

    It's true that the People's Republic of China scored a victory in 1962, five years before the 1967 conflict; but, in that fighting the Chinese enjoyed the benefit of a surprise attack, with overwhelming numbers. The Indians received no hint that a fight was about to happen, because the two countries weren't at war with each other.

    A New York Times article is interesting. It mentions that Britain's diplomat, Henry McMahon had arbitrated to establish the McMahon Line, way back in 1914, in an endeavor to settle the territorial dispute. But, the Chinese never approved of the proposal, especially because Tibet would become an autonomous region, in control of its own internal affairs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/17/w...r-clashes.html
    The conflict stretches back to at least 1914, when representatives from Britain, the Republic of China and Tibet gathered in Simla, in what is now India, to negotiate a treaty that would determine the status of Tibet and effectively settle the borders between China and British India.

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