Progressive, Primitive, Infantile

[Curtis24]

I've seen these terms used a lot, but I only have a basic understanding of them.

1) what personality traits do they denote?
2) do they correlate with body type(leptosome, athletic, pyknic), or do the two qualities exist on separate tracts

[safinator]

Progressive:




Infantile:

[Pallantides]

Progessive : Horse face ugly
Primitive : Monkey face ugly

[Agrippa]

I don't agree with the girl being really infantile, she has Neotenic-paedomorphic traits, but is in no way overall infantile.

As for the terms, they being largely explained here:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11365

Racially infantile type are always physically, by body proportions, infantilised too!

That is the most crucial, most important aspect, because they don't show single paedomorphic traits, like some progressive or "mixed" variants do as well, but are infantilised practically as a whole by bioracial standards!

Constitutional types are associated to the same tendencies, with juvenile being more Leptosomic, mature more Athletic/Mesomorphic and Mesosom being balanced in the middle of all, with Pyknic being more infantile proportionally in comparison, FOR THE SAME RACIAL TYPE.

But it is still completely different, because it is a minor change and a Leptosomic of a truly and completely infantile race is still much, much, much more infantile than the Pyknic of a progressive race, which differences to a Leptosome or Athletic of the same race are in comparison just minor.

Progressive Iranid type (Pashtu, probably Atlanto-Nordid tendencies):


Progressive Nordid type:


Normal human maturation in progressive Europids, vs. infantile reduction with child like proportions in Bambutids (African Pygmies):


Infantile extreme Alpinids:


Infantile Sami-variant:


Primitive Australid:


The progressive (neomorphic) trend is the harmonious Hominisation, infantilisation leads to reduction and child-like proportions (infantile, paedomorphic), primitive (archemorphic) means that the ancestral status being kept unchanged or more animal- and ape-like characteristics being found.

[safinator]

So to make a classification...

1-Progressive
2-Infantile
3-Primitive

[Artek]

[Mordid]

Progressive Iranid type (Pashtu, probably Atlanto-Nordid tendencies):

Pred. Iranid with Cromagnid direction.

[Agrippa]

Pred. Iranid with Cromagnid direction.

True, that's a possibility, especially his jaws show a Cromagnid shape. Thought about adding that, but since you mentioned it already, I can just agree with you.

Iranids themselves have basically two types, which v. Eickstedt distinguished, one being more gracile-refined, the other more robust-broader faced, Cromagniform/Cromagnoid tendencies.

So it is included in Iranid, but this examplar has real and enough of it to mention it.

[Curtis24]

So Agrippa, let me get this straight:

progressive = leptosome = juvenile
primitive = coarse = athletic = mature
infantile = infantile(body type) = pyknic

Is there a strict correlation? Can you get someone who is say pred. pyknic, but also pred. progressive? Is a progressive trait the same trait as a leptosomic trait?

(Im sorry if you already explained this, but I'm having trouble understanding your first reply)

I'm also wondering how masculine and feminine facial markers work into this...

[Neanderthal]

I think i'm fairly progressive myself: