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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainmurcury View Post
    I'm definitely 50/50 on that.
    Unlike the case of Tajikistan, the surrounding regions of Urban centers were still ethnic Persians and not Turks or others, which is why there is still genetic continuity between modern Persians and the Bronze age, however I guess it could be said that they were 'lower caste' which is why they managed to dilute the Nordoid minority so much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Bottom one is just a depigmented Iranid
    If #2 guy was more pigmented, he wouldn't be Iranid. #2 guy, as opposed to Iranid, is less dolicocephalic/narrow-faced, and has a shorter nose. He probably has some Armenisation, perhaps something else too, apart from an IranoMediterranid base. Plus the depigmentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Unlike the case of Tajikistan, the surrounding regions of Urban centers were still ethnic Persians and not Turks or others, which is why there is still genetic continuity between modern Persians and the Bronze age, however I guess it could be said that they were 'lower caste' which is why they managed to dilute the Nordoid minority so much
    Bactrians,Nuristanis, and Kalash people cluster close with the indo aryans than the contemporary iranians of iran does. The recent new studies show that iranians inclusive kurds, that there is around 90 - 95 % continuity in the iranian population. The hurrians actually derived most of their ancestry from the Hajji Firuz sites from north iran, which is what the fars, and kurds has derived a lot of their ancesntry from , and the also Achaemenid iranians . When the indo iranians got BMACizied, they did mix with native chalcolithic iranians, which is also why many iranians have light features. In georgia for example, they've quiet a lot of fair skinned people aswell. We've to remember that the scandinavians are the ones with the highest amount of Yamnaya ancestry. The Yamnaya were a mix of CHG, and EEHG. So basically also the reason why Europeans are refered to as "Caucasian",it's because they've got caucasoid skulls, or it is one of the reasons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    If #2 guy was more pigmented, he wouldn't be Iranid. #2 guy, as opposed to Iranid, is less dolicocephalic/narrow-faced, and has a shorter nose. He probably has some Armenisation, perhaps something else too, apart from an IranoMediterranid base. Plus the depigmentation.
    Could also possibly be due to the lattitude of the northern iran climate which has given him his features, due to lack of D vitamin. Cause 2# looks more "mesocephalic" to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainmurcury View Post
    Bactrians,Nuristanis, and Kalash people cluster close with the indo aryans than the contemporary iranians of iran does. The recent new studies show that iranians inclusive kurds, that there is around 90 - 95 % continuity in the iranian population. The hurrians actually derived most of their ancestry from the Hajji Firuz sites from north iran, which is what the fars, and kurds has derived a lot of their ancesntry from , and the also Achaemenid iranians . When the indo iranians got BMACizied, they did mix with native chalcolithic iranians, which is also why many iranians have light features. In georgia for example, they've quiet a lot of fair skinned people aswell. We've to remember that the scandinavians are the ones with the highest amount of Yamnaya ancestry. The Yamnaya were a mix of CHG, and EEHG. So basically also the reason why Europeans are refered to as "Caucasian",it's because they've got caucasoid skulls, or it is one of the reasons!
    What is meant by "BMACizied"? Who are "hurrians"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainmurcury View Post
    Could also possibly be due to the lattitude of the northern iran climate which has given him his features, due to lack of D vitamin. Cause 2# looks more "mesocephalic" to me.
    Latitude alone is insufficient for such heavy depigmentation. It is either guided sexual selection, or his genes come from much farther north. The Yamnaya were quite depigmented because of sexual selection, often primarily of females.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    What is meant by "BMACizied"? Who are "hurrians"?

    What you say near the end is true.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEY-...ture=emb_title

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainmurcury View Post
    Okay, so BMAC is Neolithic Iranian I gather. Granted I didn't watch the full video.

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    1: The hurrians were an ancient people that lived in anatolia. Which were also theorized by many that they may have been the ancestors of the kurds. But it turns out that the hurrians derived their ancestry from Hajji firuz sites from the northern sites of iran, which mostly were inhabited by Chalcolithic iranians.
    2: Yamnaya were darker pigmented compared to contemporary northern europeans. But the thing is that, lattitude do have some sort of relevance to it. We've this gene called"OCA2" which what produced melanin in our eyes, hair color, and so on. In scandinavia for example, there is less sun, and less d Vitamin, which is a pretty important factor to produce melanin in the body. When lack of melanin occurs, it produced blonde children, which now has turned into a genetically thing now. 99 % of nordics are bon with platinium blonde hair, and it usually gets darker when they hit adulthood, or get older.

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    1: The hurrians were an ancient people that lived in anatolia. Which were also theorized by many that they may have been the ancestors of the kurds. But it turns out that the hurrians derived their ancestry from Hajji firuz sites from the northern sites of iran, which mostly were inhabited by Chalcolithic iranians.
    2: Yamnaya were darker pigmented compared to contemporary northern europeans. But the thing is that, lattitude do have some sort of relevance to it. We've this gene called"OCA2" which what produced melanin in our eyes, hair color, and so on. In scandinavia for example, there is less sun, and less d Vitamin, which is a pretty important factor to produce melanin in the body. When lack of melanin occurs, it produced blonde children, which now has turned into a genetically thing now. 99 % of nordics are bon with platinium blonde hair, and it usually gets darker when they hit adulthood, or get older.

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