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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Coastal Moroccan Berbers are divided into 3 regions like you can see in this picture below:




    Here is a G25 run of the average on these 3 regions:



    'Meds' is a term used for South Europeans, and South Europeans are descends of Steppe Pastoralists and have another genetic input, however South Europeans share altogether with North African Berbers a bunch of Early European Farmer component.
    +1, good explanation.

    But What about kabyles, chaouis, tuaregs, soussis, guanches???


    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    the lone-wolf type guys are very attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecoroman View Post
    +1, good explanation.

    But What about kabyles, chaouis, tuaregs, soussis, guanches???
    Guanches are almost similair to modern day coastal Moroccans when we compare their autosomal DNA on G25:



    Soussis lack some components that Guanches and coastal Moroccans have. Touargs are a mix of Sub Saharan Africans and Berbers, paternal haplogroup wise they are majority E-M81 which means Berber men married Sub Saharan women and made offspring with them. Chaouis are not homogeneous, some have heavy Arab autosomalic admixture. Kabyles tend to have some extra admixture because of Otttomans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Guanches are almost similair to modern day coastal Moroccans when we compare their autosomal DNA on G25:



    Soussis lack some components that Guanches and coastal Moroccans have. Touargs are a mix of Sub Saharan Africans and Berbers, paternal haplogroup wise they are majority E-M81 which means Berber men married Sub Saharan women and made offspring with them. Chaouis are not homogeneous, some have heavy Arab autosomalic admixture. Kabyles tend to have some extra admixture because of Otttomans.
    +1. Thanks.

    Is there a way how I can look up charts of other berber groups??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Guanches are almost similair to modern day coastal Moroccans when we compare their autosomal DNA on G25:



    Soussis lack some components that Guanches and coastal Moroccans have. Touargs are a mix of Sub Saharan Africans and Berbers, paternal haplogroup wise they are majority E-M81 which means Berber men married Sub Saharan women and made offspring with them. Chaouis are not homogeneous, some have heavy Arab autosomalic admixture. Kabyles tend to have some extra admixture because of Otttomans.
    I see Moroccans received some yamnaya related ancestry

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecoroman View Post
    +1. Thanks.

    Is there a way how I can look up charts of other berber groups??
    I only found this one .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    I see Moroccans received some yamnaya related ancestry
    Jebalan Moroccans yes and can be easily explained by the fact that they have received the biggest morisco refugee wave.

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    If they are not so heavely mixed with negro, i think they would pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Jebalan Moroccans yes and can be easily explained by the fact that they have received the biggest morisco refugee wave.
    Do you know any Moroccan samples with R1b? (non V-88)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Do you know any Moroccan samples with R1b? (non V-88)
    Yeah, 2 samples of that chart has Moroccans with R1B:


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