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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    So paleo-balkanites were a mix between bronze age steppe people(clustering with north italians, s.french, n.iberians ) and local neolithic farmers clustering during Iron Age with bulgarians(like the dacian/getae or whatever samples from upper Romania/Moldova are).The extra steppe input first and foremost can also be explained by scythians/sarmatians or other ancient steppe tribes, whom the ancient authors wrote a lot(yet they never wrote about slavs, its like they never existed).Anyone with a few working neurons could've realized this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    New sample?
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    New sample?
    no, it's the samples from Bulgaria and Croatia i used in that Balkan k13 calcualtor

    Iron_age_Balkan:I2175_Bulgaria_EBA_5122_ybp,25.65, 9.85,35.91,0,25.77,1.7,0,0,0,0,0,1.11,0
    Iron_age_Balkan:I2176_Bulgaria_EBA_published_5132_ ybp,24.99,12.62,32.15,0,26.93,2.15,0,0,0.01,0.88,0 ,0.26,0
    Iron_age_Balkan:I4332_Croatia_MBA_3516_ybp,30.68,1 3,27.73,10.03,16.07,0.6,0,1.05,0,0.21,0,0,0.64
    Iron_age_Balkan:Bul6_Bulgaria_Beli_Breyag_EBA_4450 _ybp,22.05,11.26,35.23,0.72,25.07,5.42,0,0,0,0,0.2 5,0,0
    Iron_age_Balkan:I2165_Bulgaria_EBA_4908_ybp,30.55, 21.81,20.01,8.06,12.49,5.56,0,0,0,0.17,1.35,0,0
    Iron_age_Balkan:I5769_Bulgaria_IA_2600_ybp,24.62,3 .48,30,9.21,28.33,4.36,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
    Iron_age_Balkan:I2520_Bulgaria_EBA_5132_ybp,23.15, 16.12,30.59,0.13,25.02,3.53,0,0.35,0,0,1.12,0,0
    Iron_age_Balkan:I3313_Croatia_Early_IA_2733_ybp,34 .15,12.62,23.19,10.39,15.71,3.56,0,0,0.38,0,0,0,0
    Iron_age_Balkan:I4331_Croatia_MBA_3526_ybp,33.68,1 2.02,24.41,7.67,19.6,1.39,0,0,0,1.23,0,0,0

    Balkan_BA/IA,27.72,12.53,28.80,5.13,21.67,3.14,0.00,0.16,0.0 4,0.28,0.30,0.15,0.07

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    Guys, in your opinion, balkans area was strongly colonized during roman period (so we all have some “roman” ancestry)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Guys, in your opinion, balkans area was strongly colonized during roman period (so we all have some “roman” ancestry)?
    definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    definitely.
    What in your opinion happened to the natives? I think something like genocide sadly, because Roman ancestry seem massive.
    Are non Slavic subclades in Balkan more Paleo or Med though?

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    Is the HRV_IA sample a good example of pre-Roman Balkanites? And the post-Roman Balkanites were South Italian-like?

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    Pre-Slavic Balkan population was something between modern populations of Sardinia and Cyprus, as my signature suggest.
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    Target: Dušan_scaled
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    60.4 Slavic: RUS_Sunghir_MA
    29.8 Roman: SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje
    9.8 Byzantine: TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz2

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