(((Davidski)))

[gixajo]

He thinks he's entitled to badmouth even scientists who publish peer-reviewed papers on a regular basis. A clear case of narcissism combined with armchair science.

I would not have so much faith in the academic world, nor so little in an ousider. The academic world is so inbred and corseted, that sometimes it is unable to accept that something good can emerge outside of it.

Although I recognize that if you are an authentic outsider, you would not seek the acceptance of the academic world, and you would present the fruits of your ideas without passing the academic filter.

But actually I don't have enough data to judge this particular case, I'm only talking about generalities.

[Zoro]

Sorry, so Davidski created Eurogenes k13 and Dienekes Dodecad?

And as far as i can understand, the polemic about that "calculator effect" was more about a controversy about the idea of ​​each one of how to solve it, and that Deniekes said to have been aware of the existence of that error before Davidski, isn´t it?

Yes but Dienekes also created the software that allows people to run their calculators at Gedmatch. He’s definitely more knowledgeable than Davidski so the way Davidski counters his weaknesses is by doing anything he can even if it includes biasing data just to prove them wrong. So from a technical capabilities standpoint he’s much weaker than Dienekes, Vadim, Dilawer and others.

On the positive side he’s managed to keep people interested in genetics by being active on his blog.

[Zoro]

Even if he wasn't so good in 2012, people within 8 years can drastically improve their skills and understanding. He could have gotten 2 degrees during that timeline lol.

I think he is ok in general, Dienekes was alright too but Davidski is more knowledgeable.

I disagree. He’s gotten a little better over the years but I have yet seen him to produce software himself or to be able to genotype sequences like Dienekes, Dilawer, or even Vadim. He’s definitely more talented than people here but even his G25 is nothing but a simple Plink PCA program that even a couple of people here can run. Even his G25 nMonte program was actually written by a fellow called Hujbrets

[gixajo]

Yes but Dienekes also created the software that allows people to run their calculators at Gedmatch. He’s definitely more knowledgeable than Davidski so the way Davidski counters his weaknesses is by doing anything he can even if it includes biasing data just to prove them wrong. So from a technical capabilities standpoint he’s much weaker than Dienekes, Vadim, Dilawer and others.

On the positive side he’s managed to keep people interested in genetics by being active on his blog.

So I don´t understand, why some people here think that Davidski is biased choosing references for G25 and for that reason they don´t like G25, but at the same time they defend Eurogenes k13, created also by Davidski?

I don´t know anything about this controversy, probably I am missing many things...

[Zoro]

He thinks he's entitled to badmouth even scientists who publish peer-reviewed papers on a regular basis. A clear case of narcissism combined with armchair science.

Very true! Although he’s been correct a couple of times he’s been wrong more often

[gixajo]

I disagree. He’s gotten a little better over the years but I have yet seen him to produce software himself or to be able to genotype sequences like Dienekes, Dilawer, or even Vadim. He’s definitely more talented than people here but even his G25 is nothing but a simple Plink PCA program that even a couple of people here can run. Even his G25 nMonte program was actually written by a fellow called Hujbrets

If i pass a random raw data, can you make G25 coordinates with them? How many people do you know here that can do this?

You can have talent to choose good references but not have it to create software, and you can be talented to create good software but not to select good references.

[Zoro]

So I don´t understand, why some people here think that Davidski is biased choosing references for G25 and for that reason they don´t like G25, but at the same time they defend Eurogenes k13, created also by Davidski?

I don´t know anything about this controversy, probably I am missing many things...

I don’t use his tools so i’m not very familiar with the bias European issues Discussed here but i give vbnetkhio more weight than others because he’s proven that he understands and is able to run some of these tools better than others here

[gixajo]

I don’t use his tools so i’m not very familiar with the bias European issues Discussed here but i give vbnetkhio more weight than others because he’s proven that he understands and is able to run some of these tools better than others here

Maybe they are right, maybe not, I cannot ajudge them either about if Davidski is biased or not. i have seen French and Italians complaining about their references and accusing him with the same argument.

The "crime" of bias is very popular here, everyone accuses everyone of bias

[Zoro]

If i pass a random raw data, can you make G25 coordinates with them? How many people do you know here that can do this?

You can have talent to choose good references but not have it to create software, and you can be talented to create good software but not to select good references.

Very easy. Create a plink database and run plink PCA specifying 25 coordinates.

Yes but if you are able to create genetics software you would have more in depth knowledge of bioinformatics and can understand for example how to properly run g25 and what its weaknesses are

[Voskos]

Very true! Although he’s been correct a couple of times he’s been wrong more often

He was right on the steppe origin of Indoeuropeans I guess, and Dienekes was probably wrong supporting the Anatolian hypothesis. That still doesn't give him the right to discredit fellow scientists or amateur scientists nor to push an agenda through his several calculators.