Action Against Turkey; US Senator Menendez

[Epirus DNA]

Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) has sent a letter to US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo demanding action regarding Turkey’s recent acts of aggression in the Mediterranean.

In the letter, dated June 22, the ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, expresses his deep concern about recent actions by Turkey which “mark an escalation in aggression in the eastern Mediterranean in a way that threatens US interests.”

Menendez urges Secretary of State Pompeo to “fully implement appropriate CAATSA* sanctions and core components of the Eastern Mediterranean Energy and Security Act, a critically important expression of commitment to our relationship with Cyprus, Greece and Israel.”

Senator Menendez states that “in recent months President Erdogan has been threatening regional stability by increasing aggression against our Greek and Cypriot partners.”

Turkish military jets violate Greek airspace nearly every day, endangering Greek pilots as well as civilians going about their daily lives beneath these overflights, the senator adds.

“Turkey’s repeated violations of Greek and Cypriot sovereignty highlight President Erdogan’s lack of commitment to the rule of law,” Senator Menendez charges.

The Senator expresses his hope that in the future the US can count on Turkey as a fellow democratic partner in NATO. But he underlines that for now, “we must uphold our own laws in pursuit of our interests, and stand with our allies in the face of aggression.”

[Epirus DNA]

U.S. Senator Menendez calls for sanctions against Turkey over East Med moves

Ahval
https://ahvalnews.com/greece-turkey/...east-med-moves

[Epirus DNA]

Sen. Menendez Demands Action Against Turkey For Aggression Toward Greece, Cyprus

Greekreporter
https://usa.greekreporter.com/2020/0...greece-cyprus/

[itilvolga]

Greece declared a 10 NM wide national airspace in 1931 even though the width of its territorial sea was 3 NM at that time. Greece later extended its territorial waters to the present 6 NM in 1936. Their claim of 10 NM national airspace is against the rules of international law and consequently, the airspace between Greece’s 6 NM territorial waters and its declared 10 NM national airspace is part of the international airspace. Also Greece’s 6-10 NM airspace claim is not recognized internationally nor is it recognized by Turkey. Most of Greece’s claims about the violation of its airspace concern the flights of the Turkish military aircraft within the 6-10 NM international airspace.

Which NM (nautical miles) did Turkey violate the Greek airspace according to Menendez?

[Dianatomia]

Greece declared a 10 NM wide national airspace in 1931 even though the width of its territorial sea was 3 NM at that time. Greece later extended its territorial waters to the present 6 NM in 1936. Their claim of 10 NM national airspace is against the rules of international law and consequently, the airspace between Greece’s 6 NM territorial waters and its declared 10 NM national airspace is part of the international airspace. Also Greece’s 6-10 NM airspace claim is not recognized internationally nor is it recognized by Turkey. Most of Greece’s claims about the violation of its airspace concern the flights of the Turkish military aircraft within the 6-10 NM international airspace.

Which NM (nautical miles) did Turkey violate the Greek airspace according to Menendez?

Sorry but this is baseless. Where does it say that a country can not have a 10 NM national airspace?

Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. By international law, a state "has complete and exclusive sovereignty over the airspace above its territory", which corresponds with the maritime definition of territorial waters as being 12 nautical miles (22.2 km) out from a nation's coastline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspace#:~:text=Unsourced%20material%20may%20be%2 0challenged%20and%20removed.&text=By%20internation al%20law%2C%20a%20state,out%20from%20a%20nation's% 20coastline.

Also, Turkish violations more often that not include fly overs above Greek islands. Recently, there were even fly overs over the mainland.

[Zeno]

Sorry but this is baseless. Where does it say that a country can not have a 10 NM national airspace?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspace#:~:text=Unsourced%20material%20may%20be%2 0challenged%20and%20removed.&text=By%20internation al%20law%2C%20a%20state,out%20from%20a%20nation's% 20coastline.

Also, Turkish violations more often that not include fly overs above Greek islands. Recently, there were even fly overs over the mainland.

She makes things out of her wild dreams... Don't listen to her.

[itilvolga]

Sorry but this is baseless. Where does it say that a country can not have a 10 NM national airspace?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspace#:~:text=Unsourced%20material%20may%20be%2 0challenged%20and%20removed.&text=By%20internation al%20law%2C%20a%20state,out%20from%20a%20nation's% 20coastline.

Also, Turkish violations more often that not include fly overs above Greek islands. Recently, there were even fly overs over the mainland.

It’s because Greece's consideration of 10 NM national airspace is against the rules of international law and consequently, the airspace between Greece's 6 NM territorial waters and its declared 10 NM national airspace is part of the international airspace. That’s why Greece can’t claim any “violation” since Turkey also has a right to use international airspace in the region.

[Dianatomia]

It’s because Greece's consideration of 10 NM national airspace is against the rules of international law and consequently, the airspace between Greece's 6 NM territorial waters and its declared 10 NM national airspace is part of the international airspace. That’s why Greece can’t claim any “violation” since Turkey also has a right to use international airspace in the region.

You mean to say that this is the Turkish position. This rule that airspace should coincide with territorial waters was made up many years after Greece set its 10 NM airspace. In essence, Greece should declare 12 NM territorial waters. And then have 12 NM airspace. As is done in any other country in the world.

And how does that account for flying over the islands? Or over the mainland?

[eatensemn]

You mean to say that this is the Turkish position. This rule that airspace should coincide with territorial waters was made up many years after Greece set its 10 NM airspace. In essence, Greece should declare 12 NM territorial waters. And then have 12 NM airspace. As is done in any other country in the world.

I don't have much info about this case so i won't comment on the current situation but i want to tell you one important thing: You CANNOT disregard a nation of 80+ millions completely and block their sea and air ways. If you really think you will make more profit than it's expenses by this action, just try it it's free.

Good luck with that.

[itilvolga]

You mean to say that this is the Turkish position. This rule that airspace should coincide with territorial waters was made up many years after Greece set its 10 NM airspace. In essence, Greece should declare 12 NM territorial waters. And then have 12 NM airspace. As is done in any other country in the world.

And how does that account for flying over the islands? Or over the mainland?

What are you talking about? International “customary” law has no date. It’s not a binding rule but against the law traditionally so international law doesn’t approve it. A country can’t decide this kind of things with a high hand since it influences the neighbor country as well and such a decision limits the rights of Turkey, which gives voice to Turkish side naturally. 12 NM territorial waters and airspace would restrict Turkey so bad and that’s an international issue hence Greece can’t consider it alone but needs to reach an agreement with Turkey.

It depends on the NM. Aegean Islands are very close to Turkey and we have a regional border with the mainland so I can’t say anything without knowing the exact number, that’s why I asked for it in my first post.