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    Quote Originally Posted by itilvolga View Post
    A country can’t decide this kind of things with a high hand since it influences the neighbor country as well and such a decision limits the rights of Turkey
    Unlike EEZ and continental shelf, declaration of teritorial waters is unilateral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatensemn View Post
    I don't have much info about this case so i won't comment on the current situation but i want to tell you one important thing: You CANNOT disregard a nation of 80+ millions completely and block their sea and air ways. If you really think you will make more profit than it's expenses by this action, just try it it's free.

    Good luck with that.
    I wonder what vital interest some self-declared mongolians from Anatolia have in the waters surrounding Paros, Santorini, Crete etc. It's really an enigma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    I wonder what vital interest some self-declared mongolians from Anatolia have in the waters surrounding Paros, Santorini, Crete etc. It's really an enigma.
    As far as i remember, 12-mile is completely blocking north-south route in aegean, so sea cargo of turkey. To be honest, it should not be that hard job to slap turkey in the face and claim that 12-mile with brute force, for olive skinned brown hair-eyed e1b noble white aryan master race, but it's interesting why don't they even try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatensemn View Post
    As far as i remember, 12-mile is completely blocking north-south route in aegean, so sea cargo of turkey. To be honest, it should not be that hard job to slap turkey in the face and claim that 12-mile with brute force, for olive skinned brown hair-eyed e1b noble white aryan master race, but it's interesting why don't they even try.
    Well you don't remember right. There's a thing called innocent passage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    Well you don't remember right. There's a thing called innocent passage.
    If so, why turkish government calling 12-mile "casus belli" if that's not really important thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    Unlike EEZ and continental shelf, declaration of teritorial waters is unilateral.
    Yes. The countries declare their own territorial waters but there are some rules just like human rights; a human has many rights but as long as those rights don’t influence other side negatively. According to the 1982 UN convention on the law of the sea, a country is able to declare max. 12 sea mile. This declaration ruins the territorial integrity of Turkey and closes the area of high seas to other countries, hence it’s not applicable. According to 1958 Geneva Convention of on the Law of the Sea, it’s not allowed to any country closing high seas to any other country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itilvolga View Post
    This declaration ruins the territorial integrity of Turkey
    How exactly?

    and closes the area of high seas to other countries, hence it’s not applicable. According to 1958 Geneva Convention of on the Law of the Sea, it’s not allowed to any country closing high seas to any other country.
    Not being allowed to block access to the high seas doesn't imply you're not allowed to exerce sovereignty on the waters in the said area. By that logic Turkey shouldn't have any territorial sea in the Bosphorus strait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatensemn View Post
    If so, why turkish government calling 12-mile "casus belli" if that's not really important thing?
    I guess it's important for Turkey that Greece doesn't expand so much in the Aegean. It would also weaken Turkey's case in claiming half the Aegean EEZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    How exactly?



    Not being allowed to block access to the high seas doesn't imply you're not allowed to exerce sovereignty on the waters in the said area. By that logic Turkey shouldn't have any territorial sea in the Bosphorus strait.
    Territorial waters shape the borderline of a country and another country can’t change those borders if there’s nothing against international law.

    But the thing is Greece has no right to block accessing to high seas to another country. What do you mean with Bosphorus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    I guess it's important for Turkey that Greece doesn't expand so much in the Aegean. It would also weaken Turkey's case in claiming half the Aegean EEZ.
    Ok, could you pls tell me about vice versa? What's the profit of 12-mile over 6-mile for greece? Does it really worth provocating turkey for a war?

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