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    Default Why does ANE barely have any impact on many Amerindian phenotypes?

    Especially on many Native Americans like Brazilids and Istmids. Like its so strange how many of them virtually look like the tropical adapted version of East Asians with the typical flat nose, round broad face, small eyes, brownish skin. Since ANE is mostly West Eurasian, it seems to have very little impact on their phenotypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguzanci View Post
    Especially on many Native Americans like Brazilids and Istmids. Like its so strange how many of them virtually look like the tropical adapted version of East Asians with the typical flat nose, round broad face, small eyes, brownish skin. Since ANE is mostly West Eurasian, it seems to have very little impact on their phenotypes.
    Tropical adaptation+Sexual selection+drift. Original Amerids would Siouxian or Ket but there was selective pressure to get shorter in S. Americans (there was a recent paper published on it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Tropical adaptation+Sexual selection+drift. Original Amerids would Siouxian or Ket but there was selective pressure to get shorter in S. Americans (there was a recent paper published on it)
    Would original Amerinds also look closer to Tlingit or not really?

    So tropical adptation also leads Brazilids and Istmids to evolve flat nose, round face, small eyes, brown skin and super straight hair?

    Is the hook nose, longer narrow horse face in Andeans and a lot of Mexican Amerindians a result of ANE or evolution to cold mountainous arid climates?

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    That's bullshit. They have a lot of Caucasoid features.











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    Quote Originally Posted by L3mon J3lly View Post
    That's bullshit. They have a lot of Caucasoid features.










    Im focusing mainly on Latin American Amerindians, a lot of them seem to have flat nose, round face, small eyes which makes them look the tropical brown version of East Asians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguzanci View Post
    Would original Amerinds also look closer to Tlingit or not really?

    So tropical adptation also leads Brazilids and Istmids to evolve flat nose, round face, small eyes, brown skin and super straight hair?

    Is the hook nose, longer narrow horse face in Andeans and a lot of Mexican Amerindians a result of ANE or evolution to cold mountainous arid climates?
    All Amerids have super straight hair. It comes from Devil Gates like ancestry (EDAR). ANE would have had straight hair as well (more steppe Nothern/Eastern Euros have straighter hair generally than ENF rich Meds for example) As for the other physical features, Brazilids and Istmids yes.
    As for Angular features like straight nose and face, well ANE certainly made them distinguishable from pure East Asians, but local adaptation also played a role, think of Tibetans

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    The ANE gene for blond hair was probably in Eskimos, who often carry Q-NWT from Afontova Gora:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond_Eskimos

    Several southwestern American and Aztecan Amerinds were said to have had blond hair, and the isolated Amerindian groups from south America sometimes display blond-ish hair:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguzanci View Post
    Would original Amerinds also look closer to Tlingit or not really?

    So tropical adptation also leads Brazilids and Istmids to evolve flat nose, round face, small eyes, brown skin and super straight hair?

    Is the hook nose, longer narrow horse face in Andeans and a lot of Mexican Amerindians a result of ANE or evolution to cold mountainous arid climates?
    The original Amerid would look like a carbon copy of Tlingits. Tlingits harbour more recent (well 6,000 year old) Ancient Paleo-Siberian (AP-1) ancestry that brought Dene-Yenisian languages from Siberia to North America. AP-1 is still close to all Amerindian tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    All Amerids have super straight hair. It comes from Devil Gates like ancestry (EDAR). ANE would have had straight hair as well (more steppe Nothern/Eastern Euros have straighter hair generally than ENF rich Meds for example) As for the other physical features, Brazilids and Istmids yes.
    As for Angular features like straight nose and face, well ANE certainly made them distinguishable from pure East Asians, but local adaptation also played a role, think of Tibetans
    If an Amerindian has wavy or even curly hair, does that suggest that he might have some minor European or African admixture? How about facial hair? Can pure blood Amerinds grow beards?

    Why does sexual selection prefer tropical features for Brazilids and Istmids?

    I also notice that many Mexican Amerinds despite living in arid mountainous climates still have broader faces than Andeans. I guess it is also a local adaptation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    The original Amerid would look like a carbon copy of Tlingits. Tlingits harbour more recent (well 6,000 year old) Ancient Paleo-Siberian (AP-1) ancestry that brought Dene-Yenisian languages from Siberia to North America. AP-1 is still close to all Amerindian tho
    But Tlingits can also grow a lot of beards unlike most Amerinds. Is sexual selection and evolution causes Amerinds to lose their facial hair growing ability?

    Also do you have Tlingit samples? Can you tried model them as Devil Gates+AP-1+ANE+Jomon?

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