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    Default Ataturk: None Must Ever Be Able To Say That We Have Intentionally Injured The Christian Church



    In Angora I told M. Kemal Pasha of the Pope’s
    great desire for peace. What was to be the Pasha’s
    beau geste towards Christianity. I suggested he might,
    as S. Sophia was a Christian Church, give it back to the
    Pope, as spiritual head of Christendom.

    M. Kemal Pasha replied : " Had there been only
    one branch of the Christian Church, although S.
    Sophia has now become part of our Moslem traditions,
    it might have been possible. As the Christian Church
    is so much divided, it is impossible. We should only
    excite the Russians, the Greeks, and the Anglicans,
    to come and fight each other on our soil for S. Sophia ;
    and the beau geste you suggest for peace would lead
    to eternal conflict and strife. Nevertheless, we are so
    anxious to do all in our power to honour Christianity
    in the eyes of the world that if, by our retaining S.
    Sophia as a mosque, we are really giving offence to
    the Catholic Church, we would either turn it into a
    museum, or close it forever. None must ever be able
    to say that we have intentionally injured the Christian
    Church.”



    I complimented the Pasha on his fine sentiments
    toward the Christian religion.

    It is natural,” he replied. ” I am only carrying on
    our traditional tolerance to all religions. The Roman
    Catholics and all Christians, as well as the Jews, have
    always had full religious freedom in our country.

    As to the beau geste, what can I say ? You are free
    to go anywhere you like in Anatolia ; talk to the
    Greeks, talk to the Armenians. If there is any cause
    of complaint, we will see that it is removed
    at once. We want the Christians to be happy
    in our country. We have given them full religious
    liberty, and equal rights with Moslems : can we do
    more ? I feel sure that, in spite of all the devasta-
    tion and atrocities committed by the Greeks in our
    country, in a very short time they will be back
    amongst us ; the great friends they were before the
    Powers interfered.”

    Rauf Bey, the Prime Minister, echoed the senti-
    ments of the Pasha. “ Tell the Pope,” he said, ‘‘ to
    rest assured we are doing all in our power to make his
    people happy and contented. Can there be a finer
    beau geste than this ? ”

    As the Pasha had suggested, I went everywhere,
    saw and questioned everyone. The Greek prisoners
    were bitter in their criticism of England, who
    betrayed them and left them unaided to fight the
    Turkish army. Surely the least intelligent of our
    military attaches would have seen the cruelty of such
    a move.

    Source: Grace Ellison, british journalist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Ellison


    Full text of her book "An English Woman In Angora" https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet....ngora_djvu.txt

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    Please get it over with and convert this museum to a mosque already. Cry me a river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianatomia View Post
    Please get it over with and convert this museum to a mosque already. Cry me a river.
    I'm just sharing this to give hints about post-erdogan turkish foreign policy. No one is that evil in turkey, only he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatensemn View Post
    I'm just sharing this to give hints about post-erdogan turkish foreign policy. No one is that evil in turkey, only he is.
    .Sorry but you are wrong,Erdogan is dealing with Greeks well.
    Many kemalists(including me)support him at this moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatensemn View Post
    I'm just sharing this to give hints about post-erdogan turkish foreign policy. No one is that evil in turkey, only he is.
    You dont need support erdogan but saying just he is the only evil in turkey shows that you have no idea of turkey. Not just Atatürk, nearly every our forefathers would be ashamed for the politicians who are sitting in parliament. Turkey wasn’t founded and the turkish people didnt fought for that nonsense which Turks deal with today, that includes all parties...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    you have no idea of turkey
    Evet, ama almanya'daki bir kapicinin cocugu olsaydim suphesiz en iyi ben bilirdim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatensemn View Post
    Evet, ama almanya'daki bir kapicinin cocugu olsaydim suphesiz en iyi ben bilirdim.
    İyiki burda terbiye ne olduğunu biliyor kapıcı çocuğu. Senin gibi kültürsüz yetişmiş bir gerizekalı değilim bu bana yeter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    You dont need support erdogan but saying just he is the only evil in turkey shows that you have no idea of turkey. Not just Atatürk, nearly every our forefathers would be ashamed for the politicians who are sitting in parliament. Turkey wasn’t founded and the turkish people didnt fought for that nonsense which Turks deal with today, that includes all parties...
    Erdoğan hegomonyasının farkında değilsin galiba. Yani yaşamadığın ülke hakkında böyle bilgiç yorumlar yaparken dikkat et lütfen. Meclisimizde gayet güzel insanlar var. Fakat hepsi malum kişi ve şakkakçıları tarafından mobbing'e maruz kalıyor. Medyayı bile ele geçirdiler. Eleştiriyi bırak erdoğan olmayan bir haberin haber değeri bile yok. Lgbt yürüyüşleri bile yapılamıyor. Tüm dikta rejimlerini kotuluyoruz. Bu ülkede yaşıyoruz eleştirme hakkımızda var. Yani diger evil hukumetler bizim öncelik odak noktamız değil

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    I visited the Atatürk Museum I think he was really a great reformer in Turkey, this is how I see him. I visited the Dolmabahçe Palace in İstanbul where he lived.

    This is one of my favorite sentence from Mustafa Kemal Atatürk: "We, Turks and Hungarians are brothers. "

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