1 sperm donor; 150 children

[Han Cholo]

Yeah, this whole thing must be a spit in the face of racial minorities. Not that I don't sympathize with them, but it is what it is.

Looks like a spit on his eyes, rather. Would you really like sperm donors used to get persons like him?

[Curtis24]

Yeah, that's the guy I had in mind when I said "racial minorities"

[Han Cholo]

Yeah, that's the guy I had in mind when I said "racial minorities"

Well he is a minority. Or do you live in Africa?

[Curtis24]

Well, being totally cut out from reproduction is soul-killing. And in fact, that is the main problem with this sort of approach - large numbers of men either withdraw from society, or resort to criminality.

[Han Cholo]

Well, being totally cut out from reproduction is soul-killing. And in fact, that is the main problem with this sort of approach - large numbers of men either withdraw from society, or resort to criminality.

Or:

[Agrippa]

We had that issue already. It is an option for those which can't father children themselves of single women which want to become mothers.
Otherwise it is unnatural and psychologically strange if you don't want children on your own - the only reason for that should be you having really bad traits and such a high probability, even with modern methods, that they show up again in your children.

Otherwise...

So it is nice and I would promote it for the mentioned cases (infertile, single woman, very negative genetic profile) - for those cases I would make up standards for sperm donation which include racial profile - yet if an infertile male wants children more like him, that must be considered too of course.

Again, nice, but no viable solution if looking at the bigger picture and statistics.

[Aces High]

Remember it then.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...icle649651.ece

I remember reading somehwere once that when ticking the boxes for the father/donor White European tall athletic males with some artistic atribute with blonde hair and blue eyes swept the board.

Looks like there are a lot of unwed nazi single mothers out there.

[Agrippa]

Many relationships have a more "accidental" character and many other aspects of the potential partner being considered, than "pure quality" traits.

And I also suspect an interesting situation in the mentioned respect, namely that women have - I'm quite sure about that - a higher preference for blond children, than for blond men.

This is also logical, if they think more about "how cute the child" will be, while they might look for different things if it is about the male partner.

A lot of women like blond males, don't get me wrong, but I'm pretty certain that if you ask women about their preference for blond haired partners vs. blond haired children, there might be a discrepancy going in a clear direction.

Blond hair makes a child more innocent, cute and so on, so this would be just logical, especially for rather emotional mothers.

As for the rest, we all know - even those which don't like it - that there are quality traits out there, generally valuable traits most people prefer in their partners and children, even if they don't have those themselves.

This is just what Eugenics should achieve, to promote the more favouable genetic variants, even in the own offspring, by selecting the more favourable recombinations and getting rid of defects and deficits.

I know it was ironic, but in the end, this has nothing to do with "Nazi" women, but the general human tendency for positive traits, even perfect features.

[Curtis24]

Well, given the lack of marriages today, this may be on the upswing and become a major part of society.

Its almost scary - thousands of years from now scientists will trace the "sperm donor founder effect" the same way we try to understand the spread of R1b...

[Agrippa]

Well, given the lack of marriages today, this may be on the upswing and become a major part of society.

Its almost scary - thousands of years from now scientists will trace the "sperm donor founder effect" the same way we try to understand the spread of R1b...

Well, the difference most haplogroups stem from guys which had to achieve at least something - something so advantageous, that they did make it, others not.

While the men, without making them bad in any way, they can have excellent traits indeed otherwise, but don't have to necessarily, just have to...

So without a general control of the genetic quality, I would be not too pleased, as a woman, to get a sperm donation from a man of which I don't know anything.

I mean the sperm bank might do it the cheap way and just take the next bum from the street