Czech president calls 'BLM' slogan racist

**Mingle** · 07-06-2020, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Universe

I am not a believer of the black victimhood narrative. Black on white murder is higher then the other way around, some people try to justify murders done by blacks by saying blacks are poor which is stupid, murder is murder.
Furthermore, I don't think cops kill blacks on purpose or racially target them. Disproportionate amount of blacks are killed by police which happens because disproportionate amount of them are criminals and they're more likely to resist arrest. I heard they are also more likely to shoot at cops than other races (didn't fact check the last one yet though).
That being said, I don't think it was ok to take George Floyd's life away.

I didn't ask what you think of the movement. The discussion was about the slogan.

You criticized the image I posted. What's wrong with it? How are the examples bad and worse than the AllLivesMatter slogan used by anti-BLM people?

**Universe** · 07-06-2020, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mingle

I didn't ask what you think of the movement. The discussion was about the slogan.

You criticized the image I posted. What's wrong with it? How are the examples bad and worse than the AllLivesMatter slogan used by anti-BLM people?

"When Vegas was shot why did people say Vegas strong instead of all cities strong?"
Well, because Vegas was the only city to host a mass shooting event at the time. According to BLM only black people are victims, which is false. So the whole comparison is nonsensical. to begin with. I could go through your other examples one by one the same way, but one is enough.

Black lives matter makes out their race are the victims of the black-white cohabitation and I don't agree with it, whites are victims at least as much.
They have a right to exist as a movement and to protest but not to loot and other bullshit.

**Mingle** · 07-06-2020, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Universe

"When Vegas was shot why did people say Vegas strong instead of all cities strong?"
Well, because Vegas was the only city to host a mass shooting event at the time. According to BLM only black people are victims, which is false. So the whole comparison is nonsensical. to begin with. I could go through your other examples one by one the same way, but one is enough.

Black lives matter makes out their race are the victims of the black-white cohabitation and I don't agree with it, whites are victims at least as much.
They have a right to exist as a movement and to protest but not to loot and other bullshit.

It was the only one to host a mass shooting event but there were still problems (including murders) going on in other cities. Similarly, pro-BLM people are arguing that Black lives are in the spotlight right now (due to recent incidences with cops) so that's why they're emphasizing on it even though other murders are happening. Basically, they're saying that Blacks are in a worse position than others which is why BLM is needed. If you disagree that Blacks are in a worse position than others, then that's a different argument.

Anyways, I more or less agree with your assessment on BLM generally. Blacks end up getting killed more due to being criminals more often. And even though I don't support vigilante killing, the people that get killed aren't exactly model citizens one would feel sorry for. I just don't find an issue with the name. Its like those right-wingers that say feminists are sexist for not calling themselves "equalists".

**Universe** · 07-06-2020, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Mingle

It was the only one to host a mass shooting event but there were still problems (including murders) going on in other cities. Similarly, pro-BLM people are arguing that Black lives are in the spotlight right now (due to recent incidences with cops) so that's why they're emphasizing on it even though other murders are happening. Basically, they're saying that Blacks are in a worse position than others which is why BLM is needed. If you disagree that Blacks are in a worse position than others, then that's a different argument.

Anyways, I more or less agree with your assessment on BLM generally. Blacks end up getting killed more due to being criminals more often. And even though I don't support vigilante killing, the people that get killed aren't exactly model citizens one would feel sorry for. I just don't find an issue with the name. Its like those right-wingers that say feminists are sexist for not calling themselves "equalists".

In the vegas shooting dozens of innocent people died if not hundreds I don't remember the body count and it was done at a concert by a "normie" with no criminal background I think so it was very different due to all these circumstances. Different to other mass shootings where gangsters are killing each other, so of course it received more attention. And the "Vegas strong" wasn't a movement just a meme that was spammed around a few times, not comparable to blm at all blm is more than just a few tweets on the internet.
The other example about the house being on fire is just as stupid.

If you disagree that Blacks are in a worse position than others, then that's a different argument.

Not different. The reason their name is blm is because they believe they're in worse position than others. The name of their movement and their beliefs are intertwinned.

Ülev · 07-06-2020, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Peterski

Should Trzaskowski say what he thinks about BLM, do you agree with me that he should follow Zeman's example?

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Edit:

Sundqvist, thank you for this inspiring thread!

I called TVP - https://www.tvp.pl/kontakt - and recorded a message for them, asking to incorporate the issue of BLM and President Zeman's opinion about it in the Duda vs. Trzaskowski Debate on 12 July. I want the future president of Poland to comment on Zeman's opinion.

I will also email them about it just in case.

**Peterski** · 07-06-2020, 08:06 AM

I also contacted TVN and Polsat about it.

Pleasant surprise is that at Polsat they actually answered the phone and I talked to a real person about it.

They said they will send my request to Polsat News journalists.