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    Quote Originally Posted by kundur View Post
    Gentlemen, I did not intend to offend anyone. Sorry.
    I also think that Finns fought with greatest resilience and sacrifice in the Winter War. However, I simply tried to question why Finland ''quietly'' was off stage during the closing session of WW2.

    And those are openly discussed all around the internet. I did not mean to break any taboo or whatever.



    Maybe telling Finland was ''technically Axis'' was incorrect. Sorry. Let's say, as Indy does, a country with same status as Vichy French?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Lembitu was an Estonian king, honored there, but similar noble names existed also in Courland. Probably a Baltic loanword, but not proven. Your nickname is not Finnish.
    Even if your username comes from Baltic, Turkic languages are still more closely related to Finnish than Baltic languages are (at least in the genealogical tree).

    Also Yakuts are possibly the people with the highest prevalence of N-M231, the dominant Y-DNA haplogroup of Finland. In Pakendorf et al. 2006, 173 out of 184 of Yakuts (about 94%) were N-M231 (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...e-0083570-t004).



    Yakut phrases:

    "Ytyö kynynen": "Good afternoon"
    "Ytyö kiehenen": "Good evening"
    "Kynneri tyynneri": "Day and night"
    "Min joppuommun": "I'm Japanese"
    "Min niemespin": "I'm German"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymyyakhtakh View Post
    Even if your username comes from Baltic, Turkic languages are still more closely related to Finnish than Baltic languages are (at least in the genealogical tree).

    Also Yakuts are possibly the people with the highest prevalence of N-M231, the dominant Y-DNA haplogroup of Finland. In Pakendorf et al. 2006, 173 out of 184 of Yakuts (about 94%) were N-M231 (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...e-0083570-t004).



    Yakut phrases:

    "Ytyö kynynen": "Good afternoon"
    "Ytyö kiehenen": "Good evening"
    "Kynneri tyynneri": "Day and night"
    "Min joppuommun": "I'm Japanese"
    "Min niemespin": "I'm German"
    Balts have the second highest amount of the N. We see a concentration of closely related HG's N snd I in the Baltic sea region. How do Yakuts and Turks cope genetically and geographically in this context. How many Turkic and Yakutian loan words we have snd how many over 2000 years old Germanic and Baltic ones. You are a hopeless dreamer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Balts have the second highest amount of the N.
    Frequencies of N-M231 listed by Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N-M231):

    81.8%-94.6% - Yakut
    75%-92.9% - Nenets
    77.8% - Udmurt
    64.3%-89.3% - Khanty
    58%-94.1% - Nganasan
    76% - Mansi
    33.3%-79.5% - Komi
    51-61% - Finnish
    46.2% - Nanai
    42.6% - Arkhangelsk Russian
    41.2% - Mari
    27.2-54.5% - Tuvan
    40% - Saami
    30%-43.0% - Latvian
    36% - Chuvash
    30.6%-40% - Estonian
    34.5% - Buryat
    33.3% - Koryak
    25%-40.5% - Lithuanian
    27.8% - Volga Tatar
    27.6% - Siberian Tatar
    25.0% - Teleut
    21.8% - Northern Altaian

    Here's more populations that potentially rank above Balts (from sources like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_...and_North_Asia and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_...ions_of_Europe).

    68.5% - Izhma Komi (Mirabal 2009)
    65% - Itelmen (Lell 2001)
    59.4% - Tofalar (Lell 2001)
    59.2% - Koryak (Lell 2001)
    54.7% - Besserman (Trofimova 2015)
    54.3% - Chukchi (Lell 2001)
    50.6% - Yupik (Lell 2001)
    41.5% - Khakas (Derenko 2005)
    34.1% - Dolgan (Tambets 2004)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    How many Turkic and Yakutian loan words we have snd how many over 2000 years old Germanic and Baltic ones.
    Try 6,000-year-old cognates. Potential cognates between Finnish and Eskimo languages by Fortescue: http://muinainensuomi.foorumi.eu/vie...php?f=9&t=2776. Uralo-Siberian kinship is deeper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralo-Siberian_languages).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymyyakhtakh View Post
    Frequencies of N-M231 listed by Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N-M231):

    81.8%-94.6% - Yakut
    75%-92.9% - Nenets
    77.8% - Udmurt
    64.3%-89.3% - Khanty
    58%-94.1% - Nganasan
    76% - Mansi
    33.3%-79.5% - Komi
    51-61% - Finnish
    46.2% - Nanai
    42.6% - Arkhangelsk Russian
    41.2% - Mari
    27.2-54.5% - Tuvan
    40% - Saami
    30%-43.0% - Latvian
    36% - Chuvash
    30.6%-40% - Estonian
    34.5% - Buryat
    33.3% - Koryak
    25%-40.5% - Lithuanian
    27.8% - Volga Tatar
    27.6% - Siberian Tatar
    25.0% - Teleut
    21.8% - Northern Altaian

    Here's more populations that potentially rank above Balts (from sources like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_...and_North_Asia and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_...ions_of_Europe).

    68.5% - Izhma Komi (Mirabal 2009)
    65% - Itelmen (Lell 2001)
    59.4% - Tofalar (Lell 2001)
    59.2% - Koryak (Lell 2001)
    54.7% - Besserman (Trofimova 2015)
    54.3% - Chukchi (Lell 2001)
    50.6% - Yupik (Lell 2001)
    41.5% - Khakas (Derenko 2005)
    34.1% - Dolgan (Tambets 2004)



    Try 6,000-year-old cognates. Potential cognates between Finnish and Eskimo languages by Fortescue: http://muinainensuomi.foorumi.eu/vie...php?f=9&t=2776. Uralo-Siberian kinship is deeper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralo-Siberian_languages).
    The guy here is obviously a Svecoman, who doesn't like the fact that most Finns' closest genetic relatives aren't Europeans. Just at look at his 'DNA results'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    Madame Blavatsky ?.... Oh...my God.....
    Steiner was more interesting. While being in my early teenage his spiritual voyages across the universe and time were exciting, but as an adult I don't care to waste time to theosophy or androposophy. Only people who want to prove what is not provable believe fairy tales. I love science fiction and fantacy, but it is another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumala View Post
    The guy here is obviously a Svecoman, who doesn't like the fact that most Finns' closest genetic relatives aren't Europeans. Just at look at his 'DNA results'.
    Lol, I am probably the most original Finn on the forum. My ancestors lived in Finland already 2500 years ago, if we believe in science and research. You can believe in internet fallacies, though.

    It is misleading to list frequencies of N, because only datings matter. Some groups have high frequencies due to inbreeding and some are genetically close relatives while some are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Lol, I am probably the most original Finn on the forum. My ancestors lived in Finland already 2500 years ago, if we believe in science and research. You can believe in internet fallacies, though.

    It is misleading to list frequencies of N, because only datings matter. Some groups have high frequencies due to inbreeding and some are genetically close relatives while some are not.
    Sir, for some reasons, I unavoidably drew a parallel between you and member ''Blondie''.

    Blondie is Austrian, Swabian or whatever type of German Catholic police in Hungarian forum, monitoring activities, warning Uralic Hungarians about what they can do and cannot do, who they can and cannot mate with. An ideological Political Kommissar.

    You funnily sound like a Swedish version of Blondie in the Finland context.

    Uralic folks to the west: Under supervision of Germanic Political Kommissars.
    Uralic folks to the east: Under supervision of Eastern Slavic Political Kommissars.

    This is fun. No offence.

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