Ancestral IBERIA

[Gallop]

Estoy casi totalmente convencido de que leí (creo que fue en un libro sobre los vestigios de época pagana en Iberia, es decir, hablaba de los teónimos y cosas por el estilo encontrados en piedras durante época celta) que uno de estos 2 pueblos (o vacceos o vettones) eran o caníbales o hacían sacrificios humanos (o ambos pq están vinculados), pero no te puedo decir exactamente qué libro era (estaba en google books y me lo leí por encima). De todas formas, es lo q dices, son interpretaciones actuales. Lo mismo encontraron 3 huesos mordidos en una necrópolis y algún historiador actual dice que esas marcas son de molares humanos y por tanto, se lo habían comido, ergo, canibalismo. Pero claro, son cosas muy difíciles de probar o documentar. Sería magnífico encontrar algún tesoro escrito de aquella época (es decir, por poder elegir, pediría que se encontraran decenas de piezas de cobre o bronce escritas en los distintos idiomas protocélticos o célticos o íberos hablando de la Historia real de aquella época, de sus costumbres, etc, contadas por ellos mismos). Como el bronce de Botorrita pero para la zona no íbera de España. A saber la cantidad de elementos históricos desconocidos hay debajo de nuestros campos, o ciudades.

Leí que las mujeres celtas vestían con indumentarias de colores abigarrados sobre todo cuando hacían alguna celebración y se sentaban todos en bancos de madera frente a una gran mesa y ahí bebían cerveza y comían en cantidad. Quizá algo que utilizaban los celtas para los caballos llamó la atención o gustó a los íberos ya que estos estaban muy desarrollados en el arte ecuestre, pero siempre hay alguna novedad o alguna mejora que debió gustarles, el amor por los caballos debió haber sido un gran nexo de unión entre ellos.

[Suinthila]

[Gallop]

Que simpaticona, que cuca menuda, esta sabe más que Lepe, me ha dado más visión de la que tenía antes de verla en movimiento.


Es impresionante en foto y en el vídeo pero cuando estuve frente a ella en el Museo Arqueológico nacional en Madrid me quedé un poco como que se me giraba el cuello hacia atrás y allí estaba la otra la de Baza, sabes cuando giras la cabeza en un acto reflejo pues mientras estuve frente a la de Elche me pasó en numerosas ocasiones y cada vez encontraba a la de Baza que al menos cuando yo lo visité estaba una casi enfrente de la otra, como en salas diferentes en altura, me dejó un poquito con la mosca detrás de la oreja o me esperaba yo un pedazo de busto más grande y lo vi muy chiquitajo, podría ser.

[Gallop]

Funerary plaque of the gladiator Germanus who died in Gades after 14 victories.

Roma Room of the Museum of Cadiz.

ABOUT THE LATIN INSCRIPTION Nº 4625 OF THE MUSEUM OF
CADIZ AND THE GREEK GLADIATOR CALLED GERMANVS



GERMANVS
SAMNIS · IVL· XIIII
[...]ONE · GRAECA
ANNO · XXX · H · S · E

The gladiator of the inscription that concerns us was a "Samnite". As it is
As it is known, it was very typical, since the origin of the gladiatorial games, to bring to the arena the prisoners of war of the subjugated
prisoners of war of the subjugated peoples, and also to recreate battles or military confrontations.
military confrontations. Hence, several types of gladiators acquired the name of ancient peoples to whom Rome
the name of the ancient peoples that Rome had conquered. These "types" of
gladiators (or armaturae gladiatoriae) had their own way of fighting and weapons.
and weapons.
The Samnites were a people located in southern Latium, which the Romans subdued as early as the 4th century BC. The name of this gladiatorial armature
The name of this gladiatorial armature appears little in epigraphy (we have preserved only three more inscriptions about
gladiators in the whole Empire, two from Rome itself and one from Venusia11) and is reduced to
Venusia11) and is limited to the classical period, without going beyond the Flavian dynasty. Perhaps the
Samnites were already in their final stage in the High-Imperial period, or they gained a new and ephemeral interest after the
ephemeral interest after the Social War (91-88 B.C.) in which the localities of Campania were especially bellicose.
Campanian localities were especially bellicose. The fact is that the mention of Germanus as a Samnite gladiator allows us to date the epitaph to no later than the first century AD, since it is not possible to date it to the first century AD.
i a.C., since the Samnite gladiators evolved very soon and were identified with the type called hoplomachus, with the murmillo or even with the secutor.

https://institucional.us.es/revistas/habis/42/art_3.pdf

[Rafael Passoni]

Good work. Many things to learn. I think Phoenicians were originated in Iberia too and went to Lebanon then.

[Gallop]

Good work. Many things to learn. I think Phoenicians were originated in Iberia too and went to Lebanon then.

They certainly did not go to Brazil

[Gallop]

The sisters of the paleochristian Roman baptistery of the 1st century BC.

The Roman baptistery was found by their grandfather in the province of Granada and these particular brothers take care of it with great zeal as you can see.



After the television success of the sisters, the television stations took advantage of the passion of the sisters, heirs of the Roman baptistery, to make a television show.

[Rafael Passoni]

Edited: I'm Sorry. It was not my intention, but you are right.

[Gallop]

Sorry, the article I was refered is this, but they don't concluded what I've said. Thanks my bad memory. But still interesting.

Source:
https://www.thelocal.es/20160526/fir...nish-ancestry/

Every time it is published something that relates Spain to the rest of Europe you bring up something extra-European. The Phoenicians also came to the British Isles, Spain does not have a monopoly on the Phoenicians.

What do you want to get, that we say that the Spanish are 50/50 Iberian-Phoenicians, well I doubt it.

Spain is Europe and Brazil is in America and is a black country.

[Gallop]

No sé por qué han dejado esta reconstrucción como un maniquí de anatomía, he hecho lo que he podido...