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    I actually don't know whether to laugh or cry about this. I am pro-legalisation - the War on Drugs is a far greater threat to life and liberty than any narcotic itself is. Nevertheless, it is indeed quite droll how Melanie Phillips (on many issues a good journalist), who is usually fanatically pro-Israel, not least because she thinks it is a bastion of traditionalism and moral conservatism, in contrast to 'decadent' Britain, is deeply upset by this bill going through the Knesset. https://www.melaniephillips.com/why-israel-going-pot/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I actually don't know whether to laugh or cry about this. I am pro-legalisation - the War on Drugs is a far greater threat to life and liberty than any narcotic itself is.
    You just don't like it because the War on Drugs is just an excuse for the US to keep military presence in Latin America after the Cold War.

    The US could end the War on Drugs and encourage Latin America to do the same, which would take 75% of their profits overnight. Or you could invest the amount you would have spent on a war (billions of dollars) into repairing these countries infrastructure and government. Neither of these would even require an open US-Mexico border of course.

    The cartel/gangs in Latin America live day in and day out under the threat of having their faces peeled off and their bodies flayed while they're alive and awake if they fuck up. Do you really think the threat of being shot by DEA goons scares them more than that?

    Lucky China for not having 60,000,000 Hispanics to keep in line and a huge fifth column of half-breed "social democrats" intent on destroying the state on their behalf lel.

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    Nevertheless, it is indeed quite droll how Melanie Phillips (on many issues a good journalist), who is usually fanatically pro-Israel, not least because she thinks it is a bastion of traditionalism and moral conservatism, in contrast to 'decadent' Britain, is deeply upset by this bill going through the Knesset.
    They already legalised it for medicinal use, and that stuff is amazing for elderly people, body pain and mental issues like autism and ADHD. Wouldn't it be a smart idea to legalise it everywhere to help the economy after it got raped by corona?

    Melanie Phillips is conservative like the neocons are conservative, she has her own liberal views, that is the views that allow the Jews and their agenda to move smoothly within the West. She basically hate the left for calling the Jews out when it comes to Israel. She shifted to the right when her colleagues started to question her support for Israel although she was at that time a "progressive liberal".
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    Drugs are degenerating societies. Yes once a month an indica Marihuana is okay, but, those who have no borders would smoke more and more. It makes people slacky and slow, it's actually a good way for politicians to grow a passive audience.

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    not least because she thinks it is a bastion of traditionalism and moral conservatism, in contrast to 'decadent' Britain,
    Is she mentally retarded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    You just don't like it because the War on Drugs is just an excuse for the US to keep military presence in Latin America after the Cold War.

    The US could end the War on Drugs and encourage Latin America to do the same, which would take 75% of their profits overnight. Or you could invest the amount you would have spent on a war (billions of dollars) into repairing these countries infrastructure and government. Neither of these would even require an open US-Mexico border of course.

    The cartel/gangs in Latin America live day in and day out under the threat of having their faces peeled off and their bodies flayed while they're alive and awake if they fuck up. Do you really think the threat of being shot by DEA goons scares them more than that?

    Lucky China for not having 60,000,000 Hispanics to keep in line and a huge fifth column of half-breed "social democrats" intent on destroying the state on their behalf lel.



    They already legalised it for medicinal use, and that stuff is amazing for elderly people, body pain and mental issues like autism and ADHD. Wouldn't it be a smart idea to legalise it everywhere to help the economy after it got raped by corona?

    Melanie Phillips is conservative like the neocons are conservative, she has her own liberal views, that is the views that allow the Jews and their agenda to move smoothly within the West. She basically hate the left for calling the Jews out when it comes to Israel. She shifted to the right when her colleagues started to question her support for Israel although she was at that time a "progressive liberal".
    If drugs were legalised and properly regulated, it would take away much (not all of course, but much) of the trade away from criminal gangs and, moreover, make the drugs themselves safer, as they wouldn't be mixed with lots of other stuff as is usually the case nowadays. Btw, I am impressed you appear to know a lot about Melanie Phillips - is she popular in Canada? (That said, she claims she split with the mainstream Left not just over Israel, but various social issues like drugs, family values and education).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    Is she mentally retarded?
    No, though she is a bit hysterical at times for sure. Perhaps she thinks (or rather thought) that most of Israeli society is like its Orthodox and Hasidic populations, when that isn't really the case at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    No, though she is a bit hysterical at times for sure. Perhaps she thinks (or rather thought) that most of Israeli society is like its Orthodox and Hasidic populations, when that isn't really the case at all.
    Israel is like Nevada in the middle of the Middle East. Nothing conservative about it, except the Hasidis like you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    If drugs were legalised and properly regulated, it would take away much (not all of course, but much) of the trade away from criminal gangs and, moreover, make the drugs themselves safer, as they wouldn't be mixed with lots of other stuff as is usually the case nowadays.
    I actually unironically agree with this sentiment, although class A's (like opiates etc) must be stringently controlled. You are always going to get a portion of society that seeks to self medicate.

    I think either the Dutch or the Swiss tested a scheme where they gave local smackheads free state mandated heroin (in the form of pethidine) and drug related crime in the tested area dropped by 98%.

    Decriminalisation might destroy the cartel money maker, slash the number or petty thefts by addicts, violence associated with street gangs would go down, it would save lives/health of addicts, and reduce the usage overall because it would be far less glamorous for rebellious teens.

    But I don't give a fuck as long as I don't have to pay more taxes to pay welfare for bitches that can't be responsible with their money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Btw, I am impressed you appear to know a lot about Melanie Phillips - is she popular in Canada? (That said, she claims she split with the mainstream Left not just over Israel, but various social issues like drugs, family values and education).
    No, but most of Canada's Jews are pretty right wing and pro Israel, they just take advantage of the trend of alt-right leanings on the Internet and the issues of mass immigration caused by their brethren.

    But the first thing you learn about Jews is that they don't give a shit about the left-right paradigm. Neocons are the best example of this. They slot into whichever political ideology they think will benefit themselves and are often sworn enemies in the political arena, but they all come together for lunch on weekends because it does not transcend their loyalty to the Hebrew race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    I actually unironically agree with this sentiment, although class A's (like opiates etc) must be stringently controlled. You are always going to get a portion of society that seeks to self medicate.

    I think either the Dutch or the Swiss tested a scheme where they gave local smackheads free state mandated heroin (in the form of pethidine) and drug related crime in the tested area dropped by 98%.

    Decriminalisation might destroy the cartel money maker, slash the number or petty thefts by addicts, violence associated with street gangs would go down, it would save lives/health of addicts, and reduce the usage overall because it would be far less glamorous for rebellious teens.
    Well quite.

    No, but most of Canada's Jews are pretty right wing and pro Israel, they just take advantage of the trend of alt-right leanings on the Internet and the issues of mass immigration caused by their brethren.

    But the first thing you learn about Jews is that they don't give a shit about the left-right paradigm. Neocons are the best example of this. They slot into whichever political ideology they think will benefit themselves and are often sworn enemies in the political arena, but they all come together for lunch on weekends because it does not transcend their loyalty to the Hebrew race.
    In fairness, Jews are far from being the only ones who regard ethnicity/nationality as more important than ideology. After all, with the possible exception of far-leftists of the Tony Benn variety, British politicians of all stripes first and foremost emphasise the 'special relationship' with the US. (To a rather lesser degree, the reverse occurs too). Similarly, the first Western leader to establish full diplomatic and commercial relations with Castro's Cuba was...General Franco. Despite the two dictators having putatively opposing ideologies, they actually got on quite well, mainly due to a mixture of realpolitik and their shared Spanish (more specifically Galician) heritage.

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    This is unimportant. Whats important is that they need to stop annexing Palestine and stop the apartheid.

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