Native Portuguese-speakers: do you pronounce the 's' in 'pais' like an 's' or a 'sh'?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I pronounce pais (parents) with a sort of SH sound like most if not all portuguese do as Brás said. However like Pedro Ruben is saying some northern people pronouce it differently like the first old man in the video (the way he says "balões") or the last guy on the video (the way he says "dois"). However not all speak like that in the north:

I was not being able to imagine how it sounded in my head but with a video to exemplify I understand now what Pedro Ruben was trying to say. Indeed with that accent it does sounds more like "z".

[Luso]

I pronounce it "Paish"

[Pedro Ruben]

I was not being able to imagine how it sounded in my head but with a video to exemplify I understand now what Pedro Ruben was trying to say. Indeed with that accent it does sounds more like "z".

There are several ways to pronounce the S in regional Portuguese. For me one of the most interesting its the eastern area of Trás os Montes (I'm not talking about the Mirandese zone) which people differentiate s / z / ç / c. PASSO is pronounced differently from PAÇO or CINCO different from SEIS (a bit like in Spanish). In the area of ​​Viseu, every S is sibilant without distinction. Of course, these varieties will disappear, absorbed by standard Portuguese.

"Na maior parte de Portugal, e no Rio de Janeiro e em alguns estados do Norte do Brasil, as sibilantes situadas no final das sílabas tornaram-se palatoalveolares, /ʃ/ antes de consoantes surdas ou no final da palavra, e /ʒ/ antes de consoantes sonoras: isto /ˈiʃtu/, turismo /tuˈɾiʒmu/. No norte de Portugal, as consoantes /s/ e /z/ são ápico-alveolares ([s̺] e [z̺]), sendo que, na parte interior da região, contrastam com [s] e [z], representadas por C/Ç e Z."

[Latinus]

Paish.

[Pedro Ruben]

Paish.

Carioca chiante

[Smaug]

“Pais”. No “sh” sound where I live, thankfully. The “sh” [ʃ] sound is really ugly.

[Tooting Carmen]

Carioca chiante

Nao acho que ele seja carioca.

[Tooting Carmen]

bump

[Latinus]

Nao acho que ele seja carioca.

But I am. And some arrogant Brazilians on Internet forums tend to bash people of Rio de Janeiro for pushing the S, ex: biscoito (bisssscoito).

In my case, I usually don't do it.

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