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    Default Russia builds Orthodox Vatican in Moscow after Schism with Greeks

    Russian Church Plans $2Bln ‘Orthodox Vatican’

    The Russian Orthodox Church has developed plans to construct its own Vatican to the tune of $2 billion in the Moscow region, the Vedomosti business daily reported on Thursday.

    Church officials have been in talks with officials in the city of Sergiyev Posad to transform it into the capital of Orthodoxy since 2017. Sergiyev Posad is the location of the Trinity Lavra of St. Sergius monastery, considered the spiritual center of the Russian Orthodox Church. Earlier this year, the Church asked President Vladimir Putin to support the project, an unnamed government source told Vedomosti.
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/...vatican-a66182


    2018 Moscow Constantinople Schism (Orthodox Schism):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_M...tinople_schism


    Russian Orthodox Church cuts ties with Constantinople over Ukraine

    The Russian Orthodox Church has effectively cut diplomatic relations with the Patriarchate of Constantinople, which has authority over the world's 300 million Orthodox Christians.
    It follows signs that Constantinople's Patriarch Bartholomew will recognise Ukraine's Church as independent from Moscow Patriarch, Kirill.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45529355

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    The Patriarchate of Constantinople had to leave Istanbul if you ask me. At least the official seat. They should have moved it to Mt. Athos.

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    Moscow is called "The Third Rome" so it's time to built its own Vatican, wonderful news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    Moscow is called "The Third Rome" so it's time to built its own Vatican, wonderful news!
    Yes it is their right, Russia is main Orthodox country in the world with also the largest Orthodox population. Nevertheless it seems like Greeks have a problem with it. They had the 2018 Schism with Russians. Likely biggest Schism Greeks had after the 1054 Schism with Latins.

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    Doesn't concern Greeks in the least. Russians if anything should be congratulated for fighting against the turkish cancer in Libya and Syria.

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    It is normal for the largest country in terms of territory and with the largest Orthodox Christian population in the world to be the center of Orthodoxy. The Church of Constantinople, which heads the Orthodox Churches today, can hardly play the role of an Orthodox center. Given that it is territorially located in a country whose official religion is Islam, and the patriarch of Constantinople, who is the first among equals, is appointed by the Turkish state and it is mandatory that he be a citizen of Turkey.
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    Some Russian sources say only about of the reconstruction of buildings around the Trinity Lavra of St. Sergius in Sergiyev-Posad. About the construction of the Vatican it’s exaggerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAGANE View Post
    It is normal for the largest country in terms of territory and with the largest Orthodox Christian population in the world to be the center of Orthodoxy. The Church of Constantinople, which heads the Orthodox Churches today, can hardly play the role of an Orthodox center. Given that it is territorially located in a country whose official religion is Islam, and the patriarch of Constantinople, who is the first among equals, is appointed by the Turkish state and it is mandatory that he be a citizen of Turkey.
    Agreed. Let those priests leave Constantinople and find a basis in Russia or Greece. Or they can stay there, but not as an official seat. It doesn't bother Greece. No need to invest political capital in that. In fact, it is Istanbul which is essentially loosing a part of its cultural heritage. Not Greece, nor the Orthodox world. Overall, the Orthodox Vatican should be stationed somewhere else.

    They can also convert Hagia Sophia into a mosque for all I care.

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