Hagia Sophia: Turkish court rules in favour of converting into a mosque

[The Lawspeaker]

Yes. The Indian monsoon only comes during the summer season which bring life to regions like Salalah, Oman:


The ancient regions of Southern Arabia like those in Yemen, Oman and the UAE was called "happy Arabia" or "Arabia Felix" by the Romans and Greeks due to the wealth they had enjoy with marine trade links with Europe and Asia which is true for the ancient Arab Nabateans as well.


I mean, we've also had strong trade links with Europe, esp with Italy during both the Portuguese and the English and Dutch colonial periods as well in the 15th and 16th centuries respectively like these Venetian ambassadors in Damascus, Syria:


The region of the UAE here and Oman was called Maga, and I believe you had seen some of my posts on them here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6319169
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6363070
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6512192

The ancient Nabatean Arabs:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6323934
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6518755

Correct, yes. I can imagine the chagrin felt there when the trade routes moved away from them due to the Brewer Route (and later on the Suez Canal).

[Kamal900]

Correct, yes. I can imagine the chagrin felt there when the trade routes moved away from them due to the Brewer Route (and later on the Suez Canal).

The Suez canal was so very important to Europe that when the Ottomans had taken over the region in the mid 16th century, it prompted the Iberians and others to find another marine trade routs with Asia by sending the likes of Christopher Columbus to explore the other half of the world which at that time didn't know that the Americas had existed which is why the first European explorers called the native Americans as "Indians" because they thought that they were in India which the name got stuck later on. The Dutch began exploring and setting up trade ports in South Africa, Arabia, East India and SE Asian countries to create a marine trade links to import goods from Asia to the Netherlands which would be sold to other European kingdoms and states. I don't know how many Indo-Dutch people are living in the Netherlands after many of them fled from Indonesia, but I've heard it's around 500,000 which Geert Wilders is also from this group, right? I mean, I do know that a lot of Dutch farmers had lived in the island of Java.

[The Lawspeaker]

The Suez canal was so very important to Europe that when the Ottomans had taken over the region in the mid 16th century, it prompted the Iberians and others to find another marine trade routs with Asia by sending the likes of Christopher Columbus to explore the other half of the world which at that time didn't know that the Americas had existed which is why the first European explorers called the native Americans as "Indians" because they thought that they were in India which the name got stuck later on. The Dutch began exploring and setting up trade ports in South Africa, Arabia, East India and SE Asian countries to create a marine trade links to import goods from Asia to the Netherlands which would be sold to other European kingdoms and states. I don't know how many Indo-Dutch people are living in the Netherlands after many of them fled from Indonesia, but I've heard it's around 500,000 which Geert Wilders is also from this group, right? I mean, I do know that a lot of Dutch farmers had lived in the island of Java.

Correct, yes. Except the Suez Canal didn't exist in the 15th, 16th century but the route was known and used so we went around Africa instead. As for the Indo-Dutch: there were administrators, technicians, farmers, traders.. people from all walks of life.

[KirillMazur]

That doesn’t mean much tho as left and right has a totally different meaning in romania, for example. Here the right wing is the liberal one and the left wing is the more “conservative” one. So basically the capitalists are liberal and the socialists are conservative.

+1. Same thing in Russia.
I repeat for the tenth time that, due to differences in terminology, dialogue with Western partners may be difficult. For example, they consider communism what we consider Trotskyism (left-liberal), while in our country, Stalin (left-conservative) is popular among the Communists. Divide and conquer strategy works in ideological sphere, too.
The picture shows typical Trotskyism.

[Ford]

I have had a few videos related to this in my youtube recommendations and the comments in every video are like 90% Pakis and Indian Muslims praising Erdoğan and Turkey. I find this quite annoying to be honest.

[Kamal900]

Correct, yes. Except the Suez Canal didn't exist in the 15th, 16th century but the route was known and used so we went around Africa instead. As for the Indo-Dutch: there were administrators, technicians, farmers, traders.. people from all walks of life.

Yeah. I mean, it makes sense on how the White Rhodesians and the White South Africans get their produce to the rest of the world and importing goods from Asia.

[Korialstrasz]

Erdoğan has been tapping into some forbidden sources of power recently and his grip on his position has considerably receded. No king rules forever.

If you spoke Turkish you could've seen him for the clown he really is. He's excessively incapable and he has been eating into his incredible reserves of public support for a while now. Islamist crowds are fairly easy to captivate and are spineless as fuck. But from time to time, he makes mistakes and some cost him, bit by bit. At least, other strongman rulers in Europe care about their own country, ostensibly. Erdoğan, on the other hand, is only in it for himself.

Pretty sure the conversion is not going to be a highly functional one, the vicinity of Hagia Sophia does not really have a resident population and Islamists (and Turks in general) have a very short attention span. They'll just get bored and start waiting on Erdoğan's next farce. Plus, there's plenty of money to be made in the conversion process. So, Erdoğan's lapdogs, rejoice!

[frankhammer]

I have had a few videos related to this in my youtube recommendations and the comments in every video are like 90% Pakis and Indian Muslims praising Erdoğan and Turkey. I find this quite annoying to be honest.

There are more Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis on the sub-continent than europeans worldwide (I could be wrong due to being too lazy to check ) so it would come as no surprise to see such comments. We should treat it for what it is, a political game and not get riled up. There are ways to respond if you're so inclined. Economic power through tourism or purchasing of products is one way. Just saying.

[Pater Patota]

Erdoğan has been tapping into some forbidden sources of power recently and his grip on his position has considerably receded. No king rules forever.

If you spoke Turkish you could've seen him for the clown he really is. He's excessively incapable has been eating into his incredible reserves of public support for a while now. Islamist crowds are fairly easy to captivate and are spineless as fuck. But from time to time, he makes mistakes and some cost him, bit by bit. At least, other strongman rulers in Europe care about their own country, ostensibly. Erdoğan, on the other hand, is only in it for himself.

Pretty sure the conversion is not going to be a highly functional one, the vicinity of Hagia Sophia does not really have a resident population and Islamists (and Turks in general) have a very short attention span. They'll just get bored and start waiting on Erdoğan's next farce. Plus, there's plenty of money to be made in the conversion process. So, Erdoğan's lapdogs, rejoice!

Why you're against Erdogan and his supporters?Don't you know there will be a huge domestic clash in Turkey if he lose everything?

[Korialstrasz]

Why you're against Erdogan and his supporters?Don't you know there will be a huge domestic clash in Turkey if he lose everything?

That's pretty much what an Erdoğan supporter would say, btw.
Erdoğan would love to see that happen but nothing's going to happen, his base is predominantly more bark than bite.
He'll be forgotten within a few years after his loss and most of his abominable enactions are going to be revoked pretty quickly, thanks to all the power he collected on the seat of presidency.