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    Family run against updated averages

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    Romania_Muntenia,21.91,24.66,17.54,11.35,18.87,2.19,0.72,0.55,1.03,0.59,0.35,0.13,0.10
    Romania_Oltenia,23.52,25.05,17.97,10.73,17.82,1.79,0.70,0.79,0.69,0.38,0.36,0.10,0.09
    Romania_Dobrogea,22.11,24.93,17.64,11.00,18.49,2.23,0.71,0.87,1.25,0.37,0.28,0.07,0.06
    Romania_Transilvania,24.31,25.97,17.43,10.13,16.98,1.84,0.65,0.54,1.04,0.59,0.35,0.07,0.10
    Romania_Maramures,24.38,28.43,16.90,9.19,15.65,2.06,1.06,0.73,0.75,0.29,0.49,0.05,0.00
    Romania_Crisana,25.58,26.36,17.69,9.50,16.32,1.25,0.82,0.62,0.85,0.59,0.25,0.12,0.06
    Romania_Banat,22.75,25.65,17.78,10.71,17.71,2.06,0.84,0.55,1.21,0.40,0.21,0.07,0.09
    Romania_Moldova_Nord,24.59,30.31,15.10,9.37,14.81,1.70,0.82,0.61,1.30,1,0,0,0
    Romania_Moldova_Sud,24.07,26.78,16.97,9.83,16.69,2.04,0.67,0.54,1.08,0.67,0.39,0.10,0.16
    Romania_average,23.10,26.01,17.24,10.49,17.62,1.93,0.73,0.68,1.15,0.49,0.35,0.13,0.09
    
    
    Romania_Jewish,18.26,6.94,18.60,10.32,35.95,5.90,0.67,0.37,0.82,0.53,0.55,0.92,0.19
    Romania_Roma,11.21,10.37,12.59,15.94,18.36,2.33,24.59,0.67,1.99,0.11,0.99,0.85,0.00
    Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20,20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33
    Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian,28.82,28.63,15.09,8.19,12.32,1.53,1.2,0.52,2.17,0.73,0.5,0.14,0.11 
    Romania_Transilvania_Szekely,28.47555556,28.19555556,15.15916667,8.2125,12.88833333,1.376388889,0.937222222,0.889444444,2.439722222,0.765277778,0.283333333,0.248611111,0.148333333
    Romania_Moldova_Csango,27.24,29.36,15.24,7.75,12.53,1.61,1.36,1.45,2.06,0.79,0.44,0.11,0.13
    Romania_Transilvania_Saxon,36.95,23.28,17.66,6.80,11.73,1.51,0.70,0.42,0.11,0.61,0.10,0.01,0.11
    Romania_Ukrainian,26.55,37.87,13.11,5.62,11.13,1.47,1.30,1.39,0.85,0.15,0.43,0.12,0.00
    
    
    Moldova_Nord,23.76,34.32,14.70,9.76,12.20,1.53,0.33,0.50,1.73,0.48,0.32,0.04,0.32
    Moldova_Centru,23.30,30.44,15.09,10.01,14.77,1.87,1.22,0.60,1.44,0.52,0.38,0.14,0.20
    Moldova_Sud,21.68,25.46,18.06,10.91,18.15,2.51,0.41,0.61,1.02,0.58,0.39,0.10,0.12
    Moldova_average,23.08,30.46,15.56,10.11,14.74,1.91,0.82,0.58,1.43,0.52,0.37,0.10,0.22
    
    
    Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia,19.56,22.60,18.18,13.67,20.38,2.04,0.78,0.56,1.06,0.26,0.40,0.36,0.15
    Moldova_Jewish,15.89,9.18,17.47,11.48,36.11,6.35,0.02,1.23,0.37,0.05,0.50,1.33,0.01
    Moldova_Ukrainian,26.96,42.56,11.24,6.26,7.97,0.53,0.82,0.51,1.35,0.67,0.27,0.50,0.37
    Moldova_Bulgarian,23.30,19.64,18.56,13.05,18.52,3.65,1.48,0.00,1.21,0.41,0.14,0.00,0.08
    
    
    Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1.83,3.23,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21
    Ukrainian_Lviv,27.35,41.85,11.96,7.10,5.29,1.79,1.20,0.39,1.36,0.82,0.75,0.00,0.13
    Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk,26.18,38.44,13.89,5.43,11.20,1.12,1.13,0.20,1.35,0.50,0.20,0.16,0.21
    Distance to: IonBasescul_MyHeritage
    3.11846116 Moldova_average
    3.25053842 Moldova_Centru
    3.86539778 Romania_Moldova_Nord
    4.45554710 Moldova_Nord
    5.04804913 Romania_Maramures
    5.39937959 Romania_Moldova_Csango
    6.33107416 Romania_Moldova_Sud
    6.39255884 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
    6.52592522 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
    6.91711645 Romania_Crisana
    7.07968926 Romania_Transilvania
    7.35507308 Romania_average
    7.79401694 Romania_Banat
    8.30643726 Romania_Oltenia
    8.51489284 Moldova_Sud
    8.81251950 Romania_Dobrogea
    9.30627208 Romania_Muntenia
    10.34058509 Romania_Ukrainian
    10.58872514 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    12.58113667 Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia
    13.28729468 Moldova_Bulgarian
    15.00529573 Moldova_Ukrainian
    15.05911352 Ukrainian_Lviv
    16.19150703 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
    24.70853699 Crimean_Tatar
    25.93888587 Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar
    33.37152229 Moldova_Jewish
    34.28487422 Romania_Jewish
    34.63264067 Romania_Roma


    Distance to: IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage
    4.49091305 Moldova_Nord
    4.70724973 Moldova_average
    4.85384384 Moldova_Centru
    5.96441950 Romania_Moldova_Nord
    7.22142645 Romania_Maramures
    8.37547014 Romania_Moldova_Csango
    8.58984866 Romania_Moldova_Sud
    9.25890382 Romania_average
    9.38398636 Romania_Transilvania
    9.44433693 Romania_Crisana
    9.56764861 Romania_Banat
    9.75029103 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
    9.77145332 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
    9.97544986 Moldova_Sud
    10.26626027 Romania_Ukrainian
    10.26942550 Romania_Oltenia
    10.30610984 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    10.45119610 Romania_Dobrogea
    10.83536340 Romania_Muntenia
    13.57479282 Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia
    14.32580539 Moldova_Ukrainian
    14.53246366 Ukrainian_Lviv
    15.34174045 Moldova_Bulgarian
    19.42393626 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
    25.54307734 Crimean_Tatar
    26.57095783 Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar
    34.32435287 Romania_Roma
    34.53389494 Moldova_Jewish
    35.71592922 Romania_Jewish

    Distance to: IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage
    5.86180859 Moldova_Nord
    8.18280514 Moldova_average
    8.31579822 Moldova_Centru
    8.86507755 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    9.08562601 Romania_Ukrainian
    9.11432938 Romania_Moldova_Nord
    10.72422958 Romania_Maramures
    11.60380972 Romania_Moldova_Csango
    12.15101642 Moldova_Ukrainian
    12.27404579 Romania_Moldova_Sud
    12.93143457 Romania_average
    13.11278003 Ukrainian_Lviv
    13.17277875 Romania_Transilvania
    13.17301788 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
    13.18795663 Romania_Crisana
    13.20992357 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
    13.30354088 Romania_Banat
    13.51394465 Moldova_Sud
    14.03326049 Romania_Oltenia
    14.07484281 Romania_Dobrogea
    14.43434100 Romania_Muntenia
    17.08660001 Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia
    19.67111842 Moldova_Bulgarian
    22.86748346 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
    28.35037390 Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar
    28.37565682 Crimean_Tatar
    37.03714082 Moldova_Jewish
    37.81935880 Romania_Roma
    38.50061168 Romania_Jewish

    Distance to: IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage
    3.52249911 Moldova_Nord
    4.40298762 Moldova_Centru
    4.53496417 Moldova_average
    4.70236111 Romania_Moldova_Nord
    6.41598005 Romania_Moldova_Csango
    6.87062588 Romania_Maramures
    7.28671394 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
    7.37965730 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
    8.25674270 Romania_Moldova_Sud
    8.65216736 Romania_Crisana
    9.02777381 Romania_Transilvania
    9.04436841 Romania_Ukrainian
    9.13144019 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    9.32000000 Romania_average
    9.81475420 Romania_Banat
    10.29439653 Romania_Oltenia
    10.61630350 Moldova_Sud
    10.87040938 Romania_Dobrogea
    11.24259756 Romania_Muntenia
    13.05212626 Moldova_Ukrainian
    13.36573230 Ukrainian_Lviv
    14.44264173 Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia
    15.39348888 Moldova_Bulgarian
    16.97337327 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
    26.21613816 Crimean_Tatar
    27.28897030 Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar
    35.21169408 Moldova_Jewish
    35.35768516 Romania_Roma
    36.15269699 Romania_Jewish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Family run against updated averages

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    Romania_Muntenia,21.91,24.66,17.54,11.35,18.87,2.19,0.72,0.55,1.03,0.59,0.35,0.13,0.10
    Romania_Oltenia,23.52,25.05,17.97,10.73,17.82,1.79,0.70,0.79,0.69,0.38,0.36,0.10,0.09
    Romania_Dobrogea,22.11,24.93,17.64,11.00,18.49,2.23,0.71,0.87,1.25,0.37,0.28,0.07,0.06
    Romania_Transilvania,24.31,25.97,17.43,10.13,16.98,1.84,0.65,0.54,1.04,0.59,0.35,0.07,0.10
    Romania_Maramures,24.38,28.43,16.90,9.19,15.65,2.06,1.06,0.73,0.75,0.29,0.49,0.05,0.00
    Romania_Crisana,25.58,26.36,17.69,9.50,16.32,1.25,0.82,0.62,0.85,0.59,0.25,0.12,0.06
    Romania_Banat,22.75,25.65,17.78,10.71,17.71,2.06,0.84,0.55,1.21,0.40,0.21,0.07,0.09
    Romania_Moldova_Nord,24.59,30.31,15.10,9.37,14.81,1.70,0.82,0.61,1.30,1,0,0,0
    Romania_Moldova_Sud,24.07,26.78,16.97,9.83,16.69,2.04,0.67,0.54,1.08,0.67,0.39,0.10,0.16
    Romania_average,23.10,26.01,17.24,10.49,17.62,1.93,0.73,0.68,1.15,0.49,0.35,0.13,0.09
    
    
    Romania_Jewish,18.26,6.94,18.60,10.32,35.95,5.90,0.67,0.37,0.82,0.53,0.55,0.92,0.19
    Romania_Roma,11.21,10.37,12.59,15.94,18.36,2.33,24.59,0.67,1.99,0.11,0.99,0.85,0.00
    Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20,20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33
    Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian,28.82,28.63,15.09,8.19,12.32,1.53,1.2,0.52,2.17,0.73,0.5,0.14,0.11 
    Romania_Transilvania_Szekely,28.47555556,28.19555556,15.15916667,8.2125,12.88833333,1.376388889,0.937222222,0.889444444,2.439722222,0.765277778,0.283333333,0.248611111,0.148333333
    Romania_Moldova_Csango,27.24,29.36,15.24,7.75,12.53,1.61,1.36,1.45,2.06,0.79,0.44,0.11,0.13
    Romania_Transilvania_Saxon,36.95,23.28,17.66,6.80,11.73,1.51,0.70,0.42,0.11,0.61,0.10,0.01,0.11
    Romania_Ukrainian,26.55,37.87,13.11,5.62,11.13,1.47,1.30,1.39,0.85,0.15,0.43,0.12,0.00
    
    
    Moldova_Nord,23.76,34.32,14.70,9.76,12.20,1.53,0.33,0.50,1.73,0.48,0.32,0.04,0.32
    Moldova_Centru,23.30,30.44,15.09,10.01,14.77,1.87,1.22,0.60,1.44,0.52,0.38,0.14,0.20
    Moldova_Sud,21.68,25.46,18.06,10.91,18.15,2.51,0.41,0.61,1.02,0.58,0.39,0.10,0.12
    Moldova_average,23.08,30.46,15.56,10.11,14.74,1.91,0.82,0.58,1.43,0.52,0.37,0.10,0.22
    
    
    Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia,19.56,22.60,18.18,13.67,20.38,2.04,0.78,0.56,1.06,0.26,0.40,0.36,0.15
    Moldova_Jewish,15.89,9.18,17.47,11.48,36.11,6.35,0.02,1.23,0.37,0.05,0.50,1.33,0.01
    Moldova_Ukrainian,26.96,42.56,11.24,6.26,7.97,0.53,0.82,0.51,1.35,0.67,0.27,0.50,0.37
    Moldova_Bulgarian,23.30,19.64,18.56,13.05,18.52,3.65,1.48,0.00,1.21,0.41,0.14,0.00,0.08
    
    
    Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1.83,3.23,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21
    Ukrainian_Lviv,27.35,41.85,11.96,7.10,5.29,1.79,1.20,0.39,1.36,0.82,0.75,0.00,0.13
    Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk,26.18,38.44,13.89,5.43,11.20,1.12,1.13,0.20,1.35,0.50,0.20,0.16,0.21
    Distance to: IonBasescul_MyHeritage
    3.11846116 Moldova_average
    3.25053842 Moldova_Centru
    3.86539778 Romania_Moldova_Nord
    4.45554710 Moldova_Nord
    5.04804913 Romania_Maramures
    5.39937959 Romania_Moldova_Csango
    6.33107416 Romania_Moldova_Sud
    6.39255884 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
    6.52592522 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
    6.91711645 Romania_Crisana
    7.07968926 Romania_Transilvania
    7.35507308 Romania_average
    7.79401694 Romania_Banat
    8.30643726 Romania_Oltenia
    8.51489284 Moldova_Sud
    8.81251950 Romania_Dobrogea
    9.30627208 Romania_Muntenia
    10.34058509 Romania_Ukrainian
    10.58872514 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    12.58113667 Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia
    13.28729468 Moldova_Bulgarian
    15.00529573 Moldova_Ukrainian
    15.05911352 Ukrainian_Lviv
    16.19150703 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
    24.70853699 Crimean_Tatar
    25.93888587 Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar
    33.37152229 Moldova_Jewish
    34.28487422 Romania_Jewish
    34.63264067 Romania_Roma
    Merged kit makes me a Hungarian minority from Romania.

    Distance to: IonBasescul_MyHeritage+23andme+LDNA
    3.11831685 Romania_Moldova_Csango
    3.24149657 Romania_Moldova_Nord
    3.67197495 Moldova_Centru
    3.80744008 Moldova_average
    3.90656892 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
    4.25883787 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
    4.46354120 Romania_Maramures
    5.51538757 Moldova_Nord
    5.73430903 Romania_Moldova_Sud
    5.87580633 Romania_Crisana
    6.44094714 Romania_Transilvania
    7.05904384 Romania_average
    7.63431071 Romania_Banat
    7.93354271 Romania_Oltenia
    8.63143094 Moldova_Sud
    8.68595994 Romania_Dobrogea
    9.26330934 Romania_Muntenia
    10.05584904 Romania_Ukrainian
    10.50334709 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    12.92884372 Moldova_Bulgarian
    12.95887341 Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia
    14.05969061 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
    15.19692403 Moldova_Ukrainian
    15.39600273 Ukrainian_Lviv
    24.86449276 Crimean_Tatar
    26.05411292 Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar
    32.91449073 Moldova_Jewish
    33.63152390 Romania_Jewish
    34.92015750 Romania_Roma

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    Interesting random find
    This surname exists mainly in one village in R. Moldova and it seems to be linked to Hungarians. Just check where it's spread in Romania. Perhaps a medieval colony?

    https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=r...wnume&id=24797
    https://forebears.io/surnames/fabian
    https://forebears.io/surnames/f%C3%A1bi%C3%A1n

    This is why I say that people even within one village can differ noticeably genetically from one another.

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    Romania_Moldova_Nord and Moldova_average are extremely similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Romania_Moldova_Nord and Moldova_average are extremely similar.
    Yes, but Moldova_average, which is weighted by district could be better. I've used averages from what I believe to be similar districts for those where I did not have samples from.

    Falesti (in loc de Soroca)
    Balti (in loc de Singerei)
    Balti(in loc de Drochia)
    Orhei (in loc de Criuleni)
    Glodeni (in loc de Riscani)
    Edinet (in loc de Donduseni)
    Orhei (in loc de Dubasari)
    Cimislia (in loc de Basarabeasca)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Family run against updated averages
    Updated averages (old vs. new) and select runs with updated reference list on K13 (top 10)

    Averages:

    Reference N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    Original GEDmatch Moldovan (2013, with minorities) 24.45 33.59 14.99 9.79 10.47 1.56 1.29 0.52 1.31 0.78 0.75 0.08 0.41
    Old Average Republic of Moldova (June 2020) 23.50 29.88 15.61 9.93 15.16 1.86 0.85 0.62 1.32 0.53 0.41 0.14 0.20
    New Average Republic of Moldova (November 2020) 23.08 30.46 15.56 10.11 14.74 1.91 0.82 0.58 1.43 0.52 0.37 0.10 0.22
    Old Average Republic of Moldova North (June 2020) 25.89 33.33 14.92 8.89 11.43 1.48 0.65 0.56 1.47 0.35 0.61 0.17 0.26
    New Average Republic of Moldova North (November 2020) 23.76 34.32 14.70 9.76 12.20 1.53 0.33 0.50 1.73 0.48 0.32 0.04 0.32
    Average Republic of Moldova Centre (September 2020) 23.30 30.44 15.09 10.01 14.77 1.87 1.22 0.60 1.44 0.52 0.38 0.14 0.20
    Average Republic of Moldova South (September 2020) 21.68 25.46 18.06 10.91 18.15 2.51 0.41 0.61 1.02 0.58 0.39 0.10 0.12
    Old Average Romania Moldavia North (June 2020) 24.60 30.68 15.10 9.25 14.60 1.71 0.73 0.67 1.30 0.61 0.47 0.15 0.11
    New Average Romania Moldavia North (November 2020) 24.59 30.31 15.10 9.37 14.81 1.70 0.82 0.61 1.30 0.61 0.50 0.15 0.11
    Old Average Romania Moldavia South (September 2020) 24.03 26.54 17.22 9.96 16.58 1.99 0.72 0.54 1.13 0.62 0.40 0.11 0.17
    New Average Romania Moldavia South (November 2020) 24.07 26.78 16.97 9.83 16.69 2.04 0.67 0.54 1.08 0.67 0.39 0.10 0.16
    Last edited by Ion Basescul; 11-30-2020 at 12:41 AM.

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