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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    What is wrong with you exactly? How far will you go to twist known facts also written here, that Magyars come from Urals and speak Ugric language?
    You claim they are originally Turks with Ugric substratum, it's exact opposite.

    No serious paper nor researcher claim they started as Turks. It's a fantasy.
    You didn't answer my post because you have no answer to offer. You don't need to offer Africa argument, it's silly. It's known where Hungarians started, and it is in Urals. Not Altai, sorry.

    You are fanatical and dogmatic, and also funny. Nothing wrong to enjoy Turkic culture and heritage, but claiming you are Turkic and Hungarians started as Turkic...no comment.
    It's black Egyptians level.

    Enjoy your 1% Turkic DNA dear.
    You posted it yourself; you have over 6% Turkic, and you see them as the old Hunnic genes.

    Also I didn't answer what post? What did you ask to me, specifically, that needed refutation? For years, you ignore actual questions levied at you and hide behind the account of your wife to troll at times. You're probably going to her her banned at this rate.

    You said in the same sentence above "nothing wrong to enjoy Turkic culture and heritage", but then say "claiming you are Turkic... no comment." How can you both claim you have heritage that transcends culture, yet also say you can't claim that you do? It's an oxymoron.

    Also, where did you get the 1% from?

    Even if it was just 1%, does that not even mean that's there, too? Considering we are talking about over 1000 years ago, that's still a marker. However, I have more than 1% (as do you and most other Hungarians here, even half-Hungarians), but you won't say where you are getting that number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Also Xiongnu
    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    Now we just need the Y-DNA of Bulgars, Cumans, and Pechenegs to complete the puzzle.
    I match three of the Hungarian conqueror-era graves and one of the Hun-era graves form the fifth century. The Karos III grave is my closest match from them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    this one is apparently proto-Ugric according to Russian scholars:
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A...83%D1%80%D0%B0

    there is no info in English about it. or it has a different name?
    No, this is it, the Cherkaskul-Mezhovka (черкаскульско-межовской культуры). The disintegration period between the two Urgic groups started here in the Cherkaskul horizont and 1500-1000 BC was the turning-point in this one thousand years process.

    1800-1300 BC - Cherkaskul period: various level of dialectic differences with mostly clear mutual understanding (Serbo-Croatian situation)
    1300-700BC - Mezhovka period: two new language with mostly or sometimes understandable speech (Czech-Slovak situation)
    700BC-500AD - Sargat period: two different language withe some serious similarity (Anglo-German situation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    A proof through genetics:


    Because the Baskhirs are partially Magyar origin folks.



    Common mistake of the Byzantians some unknown political reason. Like the western Onugor-mistake (caused the Hungarian name).



    Without any evidence. The contenporary scholars spoke about shamanism in the grove and fire cult.



    So, the Turks had horse and the Magyars were Turks because of this. Yeah. Sorry, but our nomadic culture was ancient West Siberian Ugric origin with Iranian cultural elements in the material culture and not Turkic type. We have now a contious archeological connection between the late ancient/early medieval Western Siberia/Southern Ural region and the conqueror culture. This is the great revolution in the Hungarian prehistory research, we find our factual route between Levedia and Hungary and the main evidence of this is the not Turkic, but Ugric cultural heritage of some archeological culture with the genetic evidences now!

    Basically the whole Turkic-imagination is ended forever in Hungary. God by our Turkic friends, welcome our Iranian brothers!
    Can’t decide if you are joking or not. Your both historical and genetical relations with Iranics basically ground to Turkics but you prefer denying the Turkic contribution, however. Sweet dreams with your Iranic brotherhood, dear.

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    Universe is barely 1 percent Mongoloid, according to some he is still Turkic and closer to Bashkirs than to Austrians.

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    I imagine Turul Köröm like this:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I imagine Turul Köröm like this:



    What a slayer.


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    Cringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Cringe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turul Karom View Post
    Be nice. Blondie tries her best.
    You are nutty. I like you otherwise, you are very polite. But now I just think you aren't....normal.

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