Huns vs Vikings

[Lemminkäinen]

interesting that you as a finn look more caucasoid than this man. are you fully Finnish?

I am not able to follow your logic. Maybe anthro-forums make people stupider than they basically are Some kind of implementation of the Swedish law of Jante.

[Lemminkäinen]

They were not Slavs. They were of diverse origin, did not form racial homegeneity, but partially of a Mongoloid extraction, some of it can be traced to Xiongnu people from far east. Some traces of such DNA has been found in Hungary, mostly among ancient nomadic elites but not only.

But the Hungarian elite arrived much later, nothing to do with so called Huns.

[Zeno]

Both are βάρβαροι.

[Blondie]

But the Hungarian elite arrived much later, nothing to do with so called Huns.

So if your son would go back home much later than you it means he cannot be your son? The genetic source:
http://doktori.bibl.u-szeged.hu/3794...is_english.pdf

I don't know you are just trolling here with white caucasoid huns, huns were slavs etc or you are really autistic.

[Lemminkäinen]

So if your son would go back home much later than you it means he cannot be your son? The genetic source:
http://doktori.bibl.u-szeged.hu/3794...is_english.pdf

I don't know you are just trolling here with white caucasoid huns, huns were slavs etc or you are really autistic.

The Huns, as invaders figured by Romans, were also Germanic people. It is still unproven that Hungarian intruders, who came 500 years later than Huns, were Hunnic people. Conversely, we KNOW that many of them carried yDna N, belonging to the same branch than East Finns, and brought the Uralic language. Damn how illogical some people can be! If the Hungarian intruders were Finno-Ugric people, then also the Huns were Finno-Ugric, assuming that these two groups were same people. Are jou ready to read my conclusion; the Huns were brothers of East Finns! You can't get all you want at the same time.

[Lemminkäinen]

Same retarded logic is that if I look more Caucasian than some Poles, I can't be Finnish.

Now I go and dress my pants.

[Blondie]

The Huns, as invaders figured by Romans, were also Germanic people. It is still unproven that Hungarian intruders, who came 500 years later than Huns, were Hunnic people. Conversely, we KNOW that many of them carried yDna N, belonging to the same branch than East Finns, and brought the Uralic language. Damn how illogical some people can be! If the Hungarian intruders were Finno-Ugric people, then also the Huns were Finno-Ugric, assuming that these two groups were same people. Are jou ready to read my conclusion; the Huns were brothers of East Finns! You can't get all you want at the same time.

1. The huns were described as non european looking peoples by romans, And huns were not germanic, romans said huns had their own language and it was not germanic, but many hun spoked the ostrogothic language because they were allies of huns but thats all.Just because italians and germans were allies in the WW2 it doesn't mean italians are germans or germans are italians, these are two different ethnicity.

2. Most huns belonged to haplogroup Q which is not finnic:

"Many of clades of haplogroup Q1a are believed to have been brought by the Huns, the Mongols and the Turks, who all originated in the Altai region and around modern Mongolia. Haplogroup Q has been identified in Iron Age remains from Hunnic sites in Mongolia by Petkovski et al. (2006) and in Xinjiang by Kang et al. (2013). Modern Mongols belong to various subclades of Q1a, including by order of frequency Q1a2a1c (L330), Q1a1a1 (M120), Q1a1b (M25) and Q1a2a2 (YP4004)."
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

3. Huns and finns have nothing to do with each other, huns were horse nomads, finns were fishing and hunting peoples.

[Lemminkäinen]

1. The huns were described as non european looking peoples by romans, And huns were not germanic, romans said huns had their own language and it was not germanic, but many hun spoked the ostrogothic language because they were allies of huns but thats all.Just because italians and germans were allies in the WW2 it doesn't mean italians are germans or germans are italians, these are two different ethnicity.

2. Most huns belonged to haplogroup Q which is not finnic:

"Many of clades of haplogroup Q1a are believed to have been brought by the Huns, the Mongols and the Turks, who all originated in the Altai region and around modern Mongolia. Haplogroup Q has been identified in Iron Age remains from Hunnic sites in Mongolia by Petkovski et al. (2006) and in Xinjiang by Kang et al. (2013). Modern Mongols belong to various subclades of Q1a, including by order of frequency Q1a2a1c (L330), Q1a1a1 (M120), Q1a1b (M25) and Q1a2a2 (YP4004)."
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

3. Huns and finns have nothing to do with each other, huns were horse nomads, finns were fishing and hunting peoples.

I agree all you wrote, with exception of the Hunnic army ethnicity. They were a very multiethnic group.

You shoot down something only in you head. I never wrote that the Huns were Finnic. I wrote that Hungarian intruders brought a Finno-Ugric language to Hungary and many of them belonged to the same branch of yDna N with East Finns. SO IF THE HUNGARIAN INTRUDERS WERE HUNS THEN THE HUNNIC UPPER CLASS WAS LIKELY FINNO-UGRIC. I didn't write that the Huns were Finno-Ugric. But if you want to believe that the upper class of Hungarian intruders were Huns, then the Huns were Finno-Ugric.

[Pater Patota]

yes. same in turkey too. he was a great Turkic commander

Genetically, ethnically and phenotypically a false hero for Turkish nation&people.

[Lemminkäinen]

In Europe the HG Q is most common in Southern Sweden, peaking in Gotland 4%. I know, some researchers have speculated that an Iron Age horse burial in Götaland was a Hunnic horse.