Huns vs Vikings

[Blondie]

https://oko.press/images/2016/05/z19...27-250x250.jpg

So what? Huns originated from East Asia, they were asian looking or eurasian mixed looking (turanid). Laughable to claim they were white slavs.

[Voskos]

https://oko.press/images/2016/05/z19...27-250x250.jpg

interesting that you as a finn look more caucasoid than this man. are you fully Finnish?

[gixajo]

Romans described them as obviously Mongoloid and completely alien to their own appearance.

This is the main Roman source about Huns (and Goths), the author (Jordanes)was not a direct witness but someone who collected texts from someone else (Cassiodorus) who himself was neither a direct witness, but his grandfather was part of a Roman embassy sent to speak to Attila when the city of Rome was threatened.

De origine actibusque Getarum/ De Getarum (Gothorum) Origine et Rebus Gestis/ De Rebus Geticis.

Known simply as "Getica".

In the page 102 there is a physical description of Attila, if I am not wrong.

https://archive.org/details/gothichi...ge/n3/mode/2up

Curiously this book describe Silures (South Wales) as "swarthy" as Spanish and Gauls, but not Caledonians, that according to this book had lighter features.

And Tacitus said the same thing about Silures.

[Lemminkäinen]

A closer look to Huns

Looks like the original study gives different results. I have to check it. This is what I see in the study:

[Kaspias]

Looks like the original study gives different results. I have to check it. This is what I see in the study:

Original study says they are half Hunnic, and what I posted in the thread is isolated 50% Asian side of them.

[Narration]

turks are half middle eastern half balkanite

Not true at all, more like 30-35% Central Asian, 65-70% Native Anatolian.

[Blondie]

Not true at all, more like 30-35% Central Asian, 65-70% Native Anatolian.

No:

"Turkey connects the Middle East, Europe, and Asia and has experienced major population movements. We examined the population structure and genetic relatedness of samples from three regions of Turkey using over 500,000 SNP genotypes. The data were analyzed together with Human Genome Diversity Panel data. To obtain a more representative sampling from Central Asia, Kyrgyz samples (Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan) were genotyped and analyzed. Principal component (PC) analysis reveals a significant overlap between Turks and Middle Easterners and a relationship with Europeans and South and Central Asians; however, the Turkish genetic structure is unique. FRAPPE, STRUCTURE, and phylogenetic analyses support the PC analysis depending upon the number of parental ancestry components chosen. For example, supervised STRUCTURE (K = 3) illustrates a genetic ancestry for the Turks of 45% Middle Eastern (95% CI, 42–49), 40% European (95% CI, 36–44), and 15% Central Asian (95% CI, 13–16), whereas at K = 4 the genetic ancestry of the Turks was 38% European (95% CI, 35–42), 35% Middle Eastern (95% CI, 33–38), 18% South Asian (95% CI, 16–19), and 9% Central Asian (95% CI, 7–11). PC analysis and FRAPPE/STRUCTURE results from three regions in Turkey (Aydin, Istanbul, and Kayseri) were superimposed, without clear subpopulation structure, suggesting the selected samples were rather homogeneous. Thus, this study demonstrates admixture of Turkish people reflecting the population migration patterns."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4904778/

[gixajo]

What Romans called Huns were a bunch of different peoples with different origins, even probably Europeans.

[Narration]

By the way, the OP was banned just a few minutes ago.

[PaleoEuropean]

What Romans called Huns were a bunch of different peoples with different origins, even probably Europeans.

Yea the Asiatic Huns were very small in number to begin with as were the Mongols, they attacked a bunch of weak tribes and basically made themselves go extinct using the same tactic over and over. The Hunnic nobility by the end was mostly German, if there were any Asiatic Huns left they became the Bulgars, I don't think I have seen Bulgar samples so I can't say for certain.