New Turco-Bulgarian Pact to bring order into Balkans?

[kundur]

Latest geopolitical developments in the Balkans, the marginalization of the NATO following Brexit, the Greco-Fyromian normalization through the resolving of the name issue (Bulgaria being loser there), Greece's continuous provocations against Turkey and its illegal occupation of Turkish islands in the Aegean and several other factors point to the necessity of the revival of an old, WWI era alliance between the states of Turkey and Bulgaria.

Greece acts like the spoiled kid of the Imperialist powers. That is the only state which grew in terms of territory, though losing on frontlines. They shamelessly took lands from all their neighboring nations. With later deporting natives and operating a population replacement.

Let's remember when these Greeks united with Serbs and stole what's today Fyrom (heartland of Bulgaria, Ohrid being capital of First Bulgarian empire) from Bulgaria after 1st Balkan War. They had treacherously allied with Serbs again in 2nd Balkan War. Serbs kept Bulgarian lands.

Greeks, not stopping there, joined WWI by opportunism at its closing stage.
The nasty Hellenes, helping yesterday Serbs in the occupation of Bulgaria lands, in 1919 took Western Thrace from Bulgaria and massacred, deported the Bulgarian population of the region.

Greeks later tried to steal more from Turkey but the Turkish National Movement under Mustafa Kemal Pasha decisively defeated Greeks by 1922 and ending +2000 years Hellenic presence in Asia.

In this context, let's not forget that the Turkish-Bulgarian border has not changed since 1915 and that it is even less ''Balkanized'' than the German-Poland border which kept changing since then.

Turkey and Bulgaria, under Young Turks and the Bulgarian Tsar, united around common interests and Bulgaria accepted to join Turkey by declaring war on Serbia (thus also Russia, Britain and France).
Let's remember that old alliance of both states. It is 105 years, and both Turkey and Bulgaria still keep to those borders with mutual respect.

Turco-Bulgarian Alliance

The Convention of Sofia between Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) was signed on 6 September (24 August O.S.) 1915. It rectified the border between the two countries in Bulgaria's favour in order to bring Bulgaria into the First World War on the side of the Central Powers.

A defensive alliance between Bulgaria and Turkey had been concluded on 19 August 1914, but negotiations for Bulgaria's intervention in the war did not begin between the two parties until May 1915. It quickly became clear that Bulgaria sought a rectification of the border, and Germany and Austria-Hungary put pressure on the Ottomans to accept. The Austro-Hungarians for their part were convinced that a Turco-Bulgarian alliance would keep Greece and Romania neutral. The German ambassador to Turkey, Hans von Wangenheim, was unconvinced by the proposed alliance, believing that Romanian neutrality could only be secured by Austro-Hungarian territorial concessions. The Austro-Hungarian ambassador, Johann von Pallavicini, convinced the Ottomans to accept a border rectification, but Bulgaria initially refused to consider abandoning their neutrality—the only condition on which the Ottomans would yield territory.

On 6 August 1915, the British launched an offensive on Gallipoli that exposed Turkey's grave shortage of munitions. On 17 August, the Turkish minister of war, Enver Pasha, wrote to the German chief of staff, Erich von Falkenhayn, to see if an Austro-German offensive against Serbia was forthcoming. When told that it hinged on Bulgaria's intervention, which in turn hinged on a Turco-Bulgarian pact, the Ottomans reached a quick agreement with Bulgaria on 22 August. They ceded the Maritsa river and its left bank to a depth of 1.5 kilometres. This gave Bulgaria control of the railway to the Aegean port of Dedeagach. It also left Edirne (Adrianople) vulnerable to Bulgarian attack, but signature of the accord was dependent on a military convention being signed between Bulgaria, Austria-Hungary and Germany.

In addition to the Bulgarian-Ottoman convention, Bulgaria also signed a treaty of alliance with Germany and a military convention between Germany, Austria-Hungary and Bulgaria in Sofia on 6 September. Bulgaria agreed to allow the transit of German and Austro-Hungarian supplies through its territory to the Ottoman Empire and to invade Serbia with a large force. By November, Turkey's critical supply problem, which had threatened to destroy the regime in August, had been resolved.

Isn't it time to bring order to the Balkans?
To tell stop to genocidal mongrel thieves claiming Aristotle descent?
To reverse the brainwashing of ethnic Bulgarians by Serb Tito Partisans into believing they descend from Alexander the Great?
To liberate Ohrid, Skopje but also Aegean islands, Gümülcine, Dedeagach?

[kundur]

This time Macedonia is promised land, Bulgars! No Serbs or Greeks to stand on your way. Talaat Pasha promises for good. It is time for you to join the Turks again.
Upon taking the country, you keep Turks and Pomaks there. You are free to ship Albanians beyond the border.

[Bender1999]

Turkey needs a good relationship to balkan countries. Greece too.

[Renekton]

OK Bori/Heaven

[kundur]

Turkey needs a good relationship to balkan countries. Greece too.

From Germany, things might look differently but in the Aegean there is a reality.

Greece, by its state ideology, is an expansionist state that strategically targets the revival of Byzantium.
Greece hosts every single terrorist fleeing from Turkey, from whatever terrorist group.
Greece has militarized Aegean islands, sometimes just 5 km off Turkish coast in violation of international agreements.
Greece supports the enemies of Turkey virtually everywhere like lastly with their support to anti-GNA forces in Libya.
Greece wants to steal the gas revenue of Turkish Cypriots from Eastern Med gas fields.

For all these reasons, the states of Turkey and Greece can't have normalized relations.

It doesn't mean hate of Greeks. I would visit Greece, sit with them and eat their grilled fishes with cheese and by drinking whisky or beer with Greeks. But State Affairs are another story.

[Bender1999]

From Germany, things might look differently but in Turkey there is a reality.

Greece, by its state ideology, is an expansionist state that strategically targets the revival of Byzantium.
Greece hosts every single terrorist fleeing from Turkey, from whatever terrorist group.
Greece has militarized Aegean islands, sometimes just 5 km off Turkish coast in violation of international agreements.
Greece supports the enemies of Turkey virtually everywhere like lastly with their support to anti-GNA forces in Libya.
Greece wants to steal the gas revenue of Turkish Cypriots from Eastern Med gas fields.

For all these reasons, the states of Turkey and Greece can't have normalized relations.

I support the harder policy against Greece of Turkey, but i am more for avoiding any war. Turkey and Greecen can have normal relationship, at least a relationship where a war is not an expected scenario. If Turkey make a single, but big mistake, then we would lose many things. Some did not forget the year 1923. Turks always talk about the Sevres-syndrome, but others have the 1923/Atatürk-syndrome. Turkey has a war with terrorists, another, new war wouldn’t be good.

[Crn Volk]

Cool story

[kundur]

I support the harder policy against Greece of Turkey, but i am more for avoiding any war. Turkey and Greecen can have normal relationship, at least a relationship where a war is not an expected scenario. If Turkey make a single, but big mistake, then we would lose many things. Some did not forget the year 1923. Turks always talk about the Sevres-syndrome, but others have the 1923/Atatürk-syndrome. Turkey has a war with terrorists, another, new war wouldn’t be good.

Terror inside Turkey has been defeated at a rate of 95%. Turkey has military bases and outposts in Northern Iraq and Northern Syria. Beyond in Somalia, Qatar. New bases being built in Libya.

Just imagine Bulgaria inviting Turkish army to build a military base in BG.
In the Balkans, people are always suspicious about their neighbors because backstabbing has been very common traditionally. Turks and Bulgarians have been the exception by keeping to a promise for over a century now.

[Crn Volk]

Terror inside Turkey has been defeated at a rate of 95%. Turkey has military bases and outposts in Northern Iraq and Northern Syria. Beyond in Somalia, Qatar. New bases being built in Libya.

Just imagine Bulgaria inviting Turkish army to build a military base in BG.
In the Balkans, people are always suspicious about their neighbors because backstabbing has been very common traditionally. Turks and Bulgarians have been the exception by keeping to a promise for over a century now.

Best buddies

https://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/20...or-their-names

[kundur]

Best buddies

It is up to Bulgarians to make up their mind. They will either decide to remain a satellite proxy of the French-German Union (EU) with subsequently continuing to lose every year hundreds of thousands of people leaving the country to clean toilets in Germany, working in underpaid jobs across Italian agricultural fields, or they will stand and claim the United Bulgaria.

They simply need to open their country to Turkish military officers and experts and let build military bases. They will be given their rightful Macedonia, while they will have the chance to avenge from Greeks the treacherous takeover of Western Thrace and the massacres of tens of thousands of Bulgarians which took place a century ago.

If Bulgarian state return to Macedonia, it would be wise to be watchful. You never know. Bulgars might well try to round up Serb spies working for Athens/Belgrade.