Imre Balkan Calculator G25

**17571imre** · 07-19-2020, 12:42 AM

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Code:

Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4,0.134311,0.133034,0.064488,0.056525,0.035699,0.021196,0.011751,0.007154,-0.001841,0.004191,-0.005846,0.001649,-0.013082,-0.001376,0.026465,-0.002519,-0.024121,0.004687,0.00176,-0.004002,0.006988,0.007543,0.004067,0.013737,0.001796
Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA,0.095611,0.087336,-0.098806,-0.023579,-0.08063,0.00502,0.00658,-0.002077,-0.043768,-0.020775,-0.012504,-0.001049,-0.012785,-0.013487,0.013572,0.021347,0.003912,0.005574,-0.017723,-0.012631,-0.003494,-0.013849,-0.011216,-0.008435,0.025507
Turkic:KAZ_Turk,0.0774,-0.0873355,0.0254555,0.0150195,-0.025543,0.00251,0.0048175,0.0077305,-0.0172825,-0.009385,-0.019568,-0.0029225,-0.0030475,-0.010735,0.0007465,0.0057675,-0.00013,0.001457,0.003331,0.000438,-0.005116,0.0059355,-0.005608,-0.0006025,0.002874
Turkic:RUS_Nomad_MA:DA142,0.087644,-0.090382,0.050534,0.031331,-0.036314,-0.008925,0.00376,0.007384,-0.009613,-0.016037,-0.007632,-0.001499,0.002527,-0.007019,-0.002172,-0.007425,-0.011735,0.004814,0.004022,-0.001,-0.004243,0.008779,0.001972,-0.00012,-0.002754

use 0 ADC and 0.25 ADC

my results:
Target: mh_scaled
Distance: 1.7603% / 0.01760281
42.6 Slavic
34.4 Thracian
19.8 Germanic
1.8 Iranic
1.4 Turkic

Target: mh_scaled
Distance: 1.8033% / 0.01803327 | ADC: 0.25x
42.0 Slavic
34.4 Thracian
22.2 Germanic
1.0 Iranic
0.4 Turkic

my mother results:

Target: cb_scaled
Distance: 2.2665% / 0.02266487
58.6 Slavic
29.0 Thracian
8.4 Turkic
4.0 Germanic

Target: cb_scaled
Distance: 2.2970% / 0.02297011 | ADC: 0.25x
60.0 Slavic
28.2 Thracian
7.0 Turkic
4.8 Germanic

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**Coastal Elite** · 07-19-2020, 01:02 AM

1/2 balkan

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.8773% / 0.01877287
45.8 Germanic
32.6 Thracian
17.2 Slavic
2.4 Turkic
2.0 Iranic

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.9234% / 0.01923389 | ADC: 0.25x
49.8 Germanic
32.6 Thracian
15.0 Slavic
1.4 Turkic
1.2 Iranic

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.05742896 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
0.08556223 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.10079358 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769
0.21032645 Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA
0.23864873 Turkic:KAZ_Turk
0.24201409 Turkic:RUS_Nomad_MA: DA142

**Mingle** · 07-19-2020, 01:13 AM

TKM_Gonur3_BA is a BMAC sample. BMAC refers to the culture of southern Central Asia prior to Iranic/Aryan people colonized it.

A Scythian sample would probably better represent Iranic ancestry.

**17571imre** · 07-19-2020, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Mingle

TKM_Gonur3_BA is a BMAC sample. BMAC refers to the culture of southern Central Asia prior to Iranic/Aryan people colonized it.

A Scythian sample would probably better represent Iranic ancestry.

could you suggest wich one? this is the result when i run it with modern samples it looks pretty Iranic to me.
Target: Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA
Distance: 5.1347% / 0.05134729 | ADC: 0.5x
85.6 Iranian_Mazandarani
14.4 Brahui

but im not an expert about Iranic ancestry

**Luke35** · 07-19-2020, 01:21 AM

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.7118% / 0.01711841
45.0 Germanic
26.2 Slavic
23.4 Thracian
3.4 Turkic
2.0 Iranic

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.7630% / 0.01762956 | ADC: 0.25x
49.0 Germanic
24.4 Slavic
22.8 Thracian
2.4 Turkic
1.4 Iranic

**~~Luso~~** · 07-19-2020, 01:26 AM

just for fun:

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 5.4619% / 0.05461916
54.2 Thracian
43.6 Germanic
2.2 Turkic

**Luke35** · 07-19-2020, 01:47 AM

The OP has been hard at work fine-tuning calculators recently, this looks very solid.

Your mom get's a lot of Turkic there Imre, as she sometimes does.

**celticdragongod** · 07-19-2020, 01:55 AM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02788038 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
0.07495711 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.14036009 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769
0.23809848 Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA
0.24849177 Turkic:RUS_Nomad_MA

A142
0.24890148 Turkic:KAZ_Turk

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.7880% / 0.02788038 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.7880% / 0.02788038 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.5673% / 0.02567263 | ADC: 0.5x
93.8 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
3.6 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769
2.6 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.4492% / 0.02449169 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
7.4 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
6.6 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.4382% / 0.02438155
82.8 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
9.4 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
7.8 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769

**Mingle** · 07-19-2020, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by 17571imre

could you suggest wich one? this is the result when i run it with modern samples it looks pretty Iranic to me.
Target: Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA
Distance: 5.1347% / 0.05134729 | ADC: 0.5x
85.6 Iranian_Mazandarani
14.4 Brahui

but im not an expert about Iranic ancestry

The fit is bad, it's over 5. Modern Iranics have BMAC ancestry but they're genetically distant to actual BMACs.

I think these Scythian samples would be representative of the Scythians that invaded Eastern Europe:

Code:

Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA,0.0847985,-0.12034,0.067693,0.0537795,-0.044162,0.0089245,-0.001175,0.0028845,-0.01176,-0.023326,-0.002923,-0.0029975,0.004683,-0.0224325,0.0084145,-0.009215,-0.0144725,-0.0006335,-0.002137,-0.002814,-0.018405,0.01051,-0.0036975,-0.001627,-0.001138

Code:

Saka_Kazakh_steppe,0.0827115,-0.119494,0.0580767,0.0433897,-0.0361603,0.0029283,-0.0001567,0.0024232,-0.0102945,-0.022324,-0.0142358,-0.0027225,0.004237,-0.024061,0.0140018,0.0099222,0.0010865,-0.0024703,-0.0015503,0.007962,-0.02167,0.0051317,-0.0050325,0.0035747,0.001277

**17571imre** · 07-19-2020, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mingle

The fit is bad, it's over 5. Modern Iranics have BMAC ancestry but they're genetically distant to actual BMACs.

I think these Scythian samples would be representative of the Scythians that invaded Eastern Europe:

Code:

Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA,0.0847985,-0.12034,0.067693,0.0537795,-0.044162,0.0089245,-0.001175,0.0028845,-0.01176,-0.023326,-0.002923,-0.0029975,0.004683,-0.0224325,0.0084145,-0.009215,-0.0144725,-0.0006335,-0.002137,-0.002814,-0.018405,0.01051,-0.0036975,-0.001627,-0.001138

Code:

Saka_Kazakh_steppe,0.0827115,-0.119494,0.0580767,0.0433897,-0.0361603,0.0029283,-0.0001567,0.0024232,-0.0102945,-0.022324,-0.0142358,-0.0027225,0.004237,-0.024061,0.0140018,0.0099222,0.0010865,-0.0024703,-0.0015503,0.007962,-0.02167,0.0051317,-0.0050325,0.0035747,0.001277

i dont have a sample named scythian in this model. i will keep it this way because i looked at the results of those samples and those results are Turkic.

Target: Saka_Kazakh_steppe
Distance: 3.5142% / 0.03514237 | ADC: 0.5x
78.0 Bashkir
15.4 Tubalar
6.6 Uzbek

Target: Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA
Distance: 3.5536% / 0.03553596 | ADC: 0.5x
81.6 Bashkir
8.0 Tubalar
4.2 Tlingit
3.4 Shor_Mountain
2.8 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye

but thanks for your suggestion