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    Default Imre Balkan Calculator G25

    https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

    Code:
    Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
    Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
    Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4,0.134311,0.133034,0.064488,0.056525,0.035699,0.021196,0.011751,0.007154,-0.001841,0.004191,-0.005846,0.001649,-0.013082,-0.001376,0.026465,-0.002519,-0.024121,0.004687,0.00176,-0.004002,0.006988,0.007543,0.004067,0.013737,0.001796
    Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA,0.095611,0.087336,-0.098806,-0.023579,-0.08063,0.00502,0.00658,-0.002077,-0.043768,-0.020775,-0.012504,-0.001049,-0.012785,-0.013487,0.013572,0.021347,0.003912,0.005574,-0.017723,-0.012631,-0.003494,-0.013849,-0.011216,-0.008435,0.025507
    Turkic:KAZ_Turk,0.0774,-0.0873355,0.0254555,0.0150195,-0.025543,0.00251,0.0048175,0.0077305,-0.0172825,-0.009385,-0.019568,-0.0029225,-0.0030475,-0.010735,0.0007465,0.0057675,-0.00013,0.001457,0.003331,0.000438,-0.005116,0.0059355,-0.005608,-0.0006025,0.002874
    Turkic:RUS_Nomad_MA:DA142,0.087644,-0.090382,0.050534,0.031331,-0.036314,-0.008925,0.00376,0.007384,-0.009613,-0.016037,-0.007632,-0.001499,0.002527,-0.007019,-0.002172,-0.007425,-0.011735,0.004814,0.004022,-0.001,-0.004243,0.008779,0.001972,-0.00012,-0.002754
    use 0 ADC and 0.25 ADC

    my results:
    Target: mh_scaled
    Distance: 1.7603% / 0.01760281
    42.6 Slavic
    34.4 Thracian
    19.8 Germanic
    1.8 Iranic
    1.4 Turkic

    Target: mh_scaled
    Distance: 1.8033% / 0.01803327 | ADC: 0.25x
    42.0 Slavic
    34.4 Thracian
    22.2 Germanic
    1.0 Iranic
    0.4 Turkic

    my mother results:

    Target: cb_scaled
    Distance: 2.2665% / 0.02266487
    58.6 Slavic
    29.0 Thracian
    8.4 Turkic
    4.0 Germanic

    Target: cb_scaled
    Distance: 2.2970% / 0.02297011 | ADC: 0.25x
    60.0 Slavic
    28.2 Thracian
    7.0 Turkic
    4.8 Germanic

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    1/2 balkan

    Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
    Distance: 1.8773% / 0.01877287
    45.8 Germanic
    32.6 Thracian
    17.2 Slavic
    2.4 Turkic
    2.0 Iranic

    Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
    Distance: 1.9234% / 0.01923389 | ADC: 0.25x
    49.8 Germanic
    32.6 Thracian
    15.0 Slavic
    1.4 Turkic
    1.2 Iranic

    Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
    0.05742896 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
    0.08556223 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
    0.10079358 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769
    0.21032645 Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA
    0.23864873 Turkic:KAZ_Turk
    0.24201409 Turkic:RUS_Nomad_MA: DA142

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    TKM_Gonur3_BA is a BMAC sample. BMAC refers to the culture of southern Central Asia prior to Iranic/Aryan people colonized it.

    A Scythian sample would probably better represent Iranic ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    TKM_Gonur3_BA is a BMAC sample. BMAC refers to the culture of southern Central Asia prior to Iranic/Aryan people colonized it.

    A Scythian sample would probably better represent Iranic ancestry.
    could you suggest wich one? this is the result when i run it with modern samples it looks pretty Iranic to me.
    Target: Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA
    Distance: 5.1347% / 0.05134729 | ADC: 0.5x
    85.6 Iranian_Mazandarani
    14.4 Brahui

    but im not an expert about Iranic ancestry

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    Target: Mr.G_scaled
    Distance: 1.7118% / 0.01711841
    45.0 Germanic
    26.2 Slavic
    23.4 Thracian
    3.4 Turkic
    2.0 Iranic

    Target: Mr.G_scaled
    Distance: 1.7630% / 0.01762956 | ADC: 0.25x
    49.0 Germanic
    24.4 Slavic
    22.8 Thracian
    2.4 Turkic
    1.4 Iranic

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    just for fun:

    Target: Luso_scaled
    Distance: 5.4619% / 0.05461916
    54.2 Thracian
    43.6 Germanic
    2.2 Turkic

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    The OP has been hard at work fine-tuning calculators recently, this looks very solid.

    Your mom get's a lot of Turkic there Imre, as she sometimes does.

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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.02788038 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
    0.07495711 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
    0.14036009 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769
    0.23809848 Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA
    0.24849177 Turkic:RUS_Nomad_MAA142
    0.24890148 Turkic:KAZ_Turk

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.7880% / 0.02788038 | ADC: 2x
    100.0 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.7880% / 0.02788038 | ADC: 1x
    100.0 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.5673% / 0.02567263 | ADC: 0.5x
    93.8 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
    3.6 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769
    2.6 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.4492% / 0.02449169 | ADC: 0.25x
    86.0 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
    7.4 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
    6.6 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.4382% / 0.02438155
    82.8 Germanic:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4
    9.4 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
    7.8 Thracian:BGR_IA:I5769

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17571imre View Post
    could you suggest wich one? this is the result when i run it with modern samples it looks pretty Iranic to me.
    Target: Iranic:TKM_Gonur3_BA
    Distance: 5.1347% / 0.05134729 | ADC: 0.5x
    85.6 Iranian_Mazandarani
    14.4 Brahui

    but im not an expert about Iranic ancestry
    The fit is bad, it's over 5. Modern Iranics have BMAC ancestry but they're genetically distant to actual BMACs.

    I think these Scythian samples would be representative of the Scythians that invaded Eastern Europe:

    Code:
    Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA,0.0847985,-0.12034,0.067693,0.0537795,-0.044162,0.0089245,-0.001175,0.0028845,-0.01176,-0.023326,-0.002923,-0.0029975,0.004683,-0.0224325,0.0084145,-0.009215,-0.0144725,-0.0006335,-0.002137,-0.002814,-0.018405,0.01051,-0.0036975,-0.001627,-0.001138
    Code:
    Saka_Kazakh_steppe,0.0827115,-0.119494,0.0580767,0.0433897,-0.0361603,0.0029283,-0.0001567,0.0024232,-0.0102945,-0.022324,-0.0142358,-0.0027225,0.004237,-0.024061,0.0140018,0.0099222,0.0010865,-0.0024703,-0.0015503,0.007962,-0.02167,0.0051317,-0.0050325,0.0035747,0.001277

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    The fit is bad, it's over 5. Modern Iranics have BMAC ancestry but they're genetically distant to actual BMACs.

    I think these Scythian samples would be representative of the Scythians that invaded Eastern Europe:

    Code:
    Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA,0.0847985,-0.12034,0.067693,0.0537795,-0.044162,0.0089245,-0.001175,0.0028845,-0.01176,-0.023326,-0.002923,-0.0029975,0.004683,-0.0224325,0.0084145,-0.009215,-0.0144725,-0.0006335,-0.002137,-0.002814,-0.018405,0.01051,-0.0036975,-0.001627,-0.001138
    Code:
    Saka_Kazakh_steppe,0.0827115,-0.119494,0.0580767,0.0433897,-0.0361603,0.0029283,-0.0001567,0.0024232,-0.0102945,-0.022324,-0.0142358,-0.0027225,0.004237,-0.024061,0.0140018,0.0099222,0.0010865,-0.0024703,-0.0015503,0.007962,-0.02167,0.0051317,-0.0050325,0.0035747,0.001277
    i dont have a sample named scythian in this model. i will keep it this way because i looked at the results of those samples and those results are Turkic.

    Target: Saka_Kazakh_steppe
    Distance: 3.5142% / 0.03514237 | ADC: 0.5x
    78.0 Bashkir
    15.4 Tubalar
    6.6 Uzbek

    Target: Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA
    Distance: 3.5536% / 0.03553596 | ADC: 0.5x
    81.6 Bashkir
    8.0 Tubalar
    4.2 Tlingit
    3.4 Shor_Mountain
    2.8 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye

    but thanks for your suggestion

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