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    I was looking at https://indo-european.maps.arcgis.co...fdc85fce6eb04a and came across this Neanderthal from the Caucasus dated to the Upper Paleolithic. I would be grateful if someone could explain the significance of his haplogroup and what it means I know the basics about these things but if someone can give me more insight about this that would cool


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    Object-ID Mezmaiskaya 2
    Colloquial-Skeletal
    Latitude 44.17
    Longitude 40.00
    mtDNA-haplogroup
    Y-DNA TMRCA ca. 339,207.2 (274,711.4-408,161.1)
    Y-New
    SNP-positive A21660
    SNP-negative
    SNP-dubious
    Y-Simple A000
    YTree A000b1
    Y-Haplotree-Variant
    Y-Haplotree-Public
    Y-FTDNA
    YFull
    Y-YFull
    ISOGG2019 A000b1
    Y-Symbol A0
    Y-Symbol2 A000
    Responsible-SNP Mateja Hajdinjak et al. / Thomas Krahn (2018)
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    Kinship-Notes
    Source Petr2020 from HajdinjakNature2018
    Date 44,600-42,960 BP
    Mean -41830
    CalBC_top -42,650
    CalBC_bot -41,010
    ArcGIS_top 101
    ArcGIS_bot 199
    Age
    Simplified_Culture Neanderthal
    Culture_Grouping Late Middle Palaeolithic
    Label Mezmaiskaya2_Neanderthal.SG
    Location Mezmaiskaya Cave, Republic of Adygea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    I was looking at https://indo-european.maps.arcgis.co...fdc85fce6eb04a and came across this Neanderthal from the Caucasus dated to the Upper Paleolithic. I would be grateful if someone could explain the significance of his haplogroup and what it means I know the basics about these things but if someone can give me more insight about this that would cool


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    ancient_ydna
    Object-ID Mezmaiskaya 2
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    Latitude 44.17
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    mtDNA-haplogroup
    Y-DNA TMRCA ca. 339,207.2 (274,711.4-408,161.1)
    Y-New
    SNP-positive A21660
    SNP-negative
    SNP-dubious
    Y-Simple A000
    "A00" is the "Adam" ancestor of all men living today. "A000", with 3 zeroes, means this neanderthal isn't descended from "Adam", obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    "A00" is the "Adam" ancestor of all men living today. "A000", with 3 zeroes, means this neanderthal isn't descended from "Adam", obviously.
    I thought it was implying he was a descendant of Adam thanks dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    "A00" is the "Adam" ancestor of all men living today. "A000", with 3 zeroes, means this neanderthal isn't descended from "Adam", obviously.
    I have a question about the Y-DNA TMRCA. Perhaps the site wasn't set up to show an accurate correct TMRCA for a Neanderthal but maybe it is correct. I say this because other studies give a much longer ago split between our Y-Chromosomes like ∼590 kya is what one study concluded from us and El Sidrón

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    I have a question about the Y-DNA TMRCA. Perhaps the site wasn't set up to show an accurate correct TMRCA for a Neanderthal
    it's probably this. i would rather trust the studies than indo-european.eu on this.

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