How Elon Musk is planning to colonize Mars?

[pulstar]

NASA is working on a manned mission to Mars. China too. Presumably also India. ESA and Roscosmos joined forces. Their planned goal is 2035 or something. Knowing how things turn out to be could be even later.

Apparently Musk knows something all of them don't.

I wouldn't could him off. He has prior success, and not only related to space industry (if you can call it like that).

Do you really think humans will be ready in 2024 to travel to Mars? it is likely to be a one-way trip.

I think there are two big factor:

1) How will human adapt to live in space for that many months?
The biggest problem is human body is not adapted to life in no-gravity environment. That's why O'Neil cylinder is good solution to create artificial gravity, although this "gravity system" is not like the one we are facing on Earth.

2) How will they adapt to radiation?
On Mars even the ground is radiated, plus basically no athmosphere would leave astronauts exposed to plenty of radiation.

[Faklon]

NASA is working on a manned mission to Mars. China too. Presumably also India. ESA and Roscosmos joined forces. Their planned goal is 2035 or something. Knowing how things turn out to be could be even later.

Apparently Musk knows something all of them don't.

NASA buys from SpaceX though, it's SpaceX that knows if their rockets can make it up to NASA's expectations.

[Luso]

I'll say by 2035 we will have an elaborate 2-way trip to mars. Mark my words.

[Ruggery]

I wouldn't could him off. He has prior success, and not only related to space industry (if you can call it like that).



I think there are two big factor:

1) How will human adapt to live in space for that many months?
The biggest problem is human body is not adapted to life in no-gravity environment. That's why O'Neil cylinder is good solution to create artificial gravity, although this "gravity system" is not like the one we are facing on Earth.

2) How will they adapt to radiation?
On Mars even the ground is radiated, plus basically no athmosphere would leave astronauts exposed to plenty of radiation.

In addition, it would be necessary to prepare humans both physically and psychologically, a good ship and all the elements to establish a much better base than that of the moon.

[Ruggery]

I wouldn't could him off. He has prior success, and not only related to space industry (if you can call it like that).



I think there are two big factor:

1) How will human adapt to live in space for that many months?
The biggest problem is human body is not adapted to life in no-gravity environment. That's why O'Neil cylinder is good solution to create artificial gravity, although this "gravity system" is not like the one we are facing on Earth.

2) How will they adapt to radiation?
On Mars even the ground is radiated, plus basically no athmosphere would leave astronauts exposed to plenty of radiation.

In addition, it would be necessary to prepare humans both physically and psychologically, a good ship and all the elements to establish a much better base than that of the moon.

[pulstar]

In addition, it would be necessary to prepare humans both physically and psychologically, a good ship and all the elements to establish a much better base than that of the moon.

Agree. I can also add that hardware and materials the drones will use to build astronauts habitat on the surface of Mars is more expensive than what you might think, and they'll need to send it there somehow. Electronics boards satelites use is somewhat different technology than what we use here. There are these small parts that add to the final expenses.

[NSXD60]

M.A.R.S. = Maintain Aryan Racial Segregation? Unless, of course, Elon brings in some Afroknots, Cosmochinks, Muzzinauts, etc.

[Harkonnen]

Pekka Janhunen has proposed a design for 200 persons. Not obviously giant station, but a start

We present a two-sphere dumbbell configuration of a rotating settlement at Earth-Moon L5. The two-sphere configuration is chosen to minimize the radiation shielding mass which dominates the mass budget. The settlement has max 20 mSv/year radiation conditions and 1 g artificial gravity. If made for 200 people, it weighs 89000 tonnes and provides 60 m2 of floorspace per person. The radiation shield is made of asteroid rock, augmented by a water layer with 2 % of the mass for neutron moderation, and a thin boron-10 layer for capturing the thermalized neutrons. We analyze the propulsion options for moving the material from asteroids to L5. The FFC Cambridge process can be used to extract oxygen from asteroid regolith. The oxygen is then used as Electric Propulsion propellant. One can also find a water-bearing asteroid and use water for the same purpose. If one wants to avoid propellant extraction, one can use a fleet of electric sails. The settlers fund their project by producing and selling new settlements by zero-delay teleoperation in the nearby robotic factory which they own. The economic case looks promising if LEO launch costs drop below ∼ $300/kg.

https://space.nss.org/wp-content/upl...Settlement.pdf

Looks like Janhunen just recently published paper with much more megalomaniac design




https://arxiv.org/pdf/2011.07487.pdf

[Chris596]

M.A.R.S. = Maintain Aryan Racial Segregation? Unless, of course, Elon brings in some Afroknots, Cosmochinks, Muzzinauts, etc.

Bring me with himself and he won't need to worry about them.

[PaleoEuropean]

You mean the polar ice caps? Its questionable whether or not it would teraform the planet.

Considering mars doesn't have an aurora like earth, no matter if the ice caps were melted or not its atmosphere would be just as thin as it is now due to it's lack of electromagnetic and radioactive protection. You would have to live in a space suit on mars or constantly risk being nuked by the sun.