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    Not sure whether these versus in the quran were posted yet?

    52:24
    There will circulate among them [servant] boys [especially] for them, as if they were pearls well-protected.



    56:17
    There will circulate among them young boys made eternal

    76:19
    There will circulate among them young boys made eternal. When you see them, you would think them [as beautiful as] scattered pearls.



    So this is the Muslim heaven according to the Quran. A question: What are the young 'beautiful' boys serving them in heaven when in heaven you you can just think something and it will just appear to you instantly? Why do you need young 'beautiful' boys in heaven?

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    An Islamic poet:

    “Perfumed Garden” by Abu Nuwas:

    O the joy of sodomy!
    So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
    Turn not away from it–
    therein is wondrous pleasure.
    Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
    twisting on his temple
    and ride as he stands like some gazelle
    standing to her mate.
    A lad whom all can see girt with sword
    and belt not like your whore who has
    to go veiled.
    Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
    very best to mount them, for women are
    the mounts of the devils

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    Both religions are extremely intolerant towards homosexuality. Look at Britain with Turing. I wonder how Freddie Mercury would have been treated if he came out openly gay in Britain or Iran. I wonder if he was not Parsi, how different his intimate life would have been instead. His parents of course accepted it when he told them because Zoroastrianism allows it(except the outdated Vendidad book which even priests say is inaccurate now).

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    Not particularly true. Turkic peoples and Sufis were more tolerant of homosexuality. Sufism isn't really Islam it's more of an offshoot of Islam. The pics of the Afghanis really doesn't mean they are homo's. Eye liner and hand holding is not taboo in the Islamic world as it is in the western world. Most the homosexual activity in Afghanistan comes from the Uzbeks and Northern alliance Pashtuns. Bestial relations also is a more of a Turkic thing, there are tons of old engravings of Mongols and Turks doing bad things to deer. There also has to be a distinction between Islamic fundamentalists and Islamists. Islamism is more of a secular ideology related to Fascism, it was founded by Sufi's not by Islamic fundamentalists. There is some overlap like certain groups in Egypt, Palestine and Iraq, but it's relegated to very specific groups. Islamists are the more hypocritical group, they tend to use Islam as a tool and often allow drug use etc among their soldiers; however IS has also allowed this somewhat but it was more orchestrated (see IS use of amphetamines).
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    this is pretty much what this guy says:

    min: 14:47

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    Qur'an openly condemns gays in the verse about Sodom and Gomorrah, but doesn't say anything about lesbians.

    It's interesting that ancient Semitic religions were quite oblivious to female desires.

    Even though Qur'an is openly against gays; homosexual relations were covered in Ottoman and Persian artworks to some degree without any restrictions. Ottomans and Persians also portrayed Muhammad which is not acceptable today especially in the Arab World.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Not particularly true. Turkic peoples and Sufis were more tolerant of homosexuality. Sufism isn't really Islam it's more of an offshoot of Islam. The pics of the Afghanis really doesn't mean they are homo's. Eye liner and hand holding is not taboo in the Islamic world as it is in the western world. Most the homosexual activity in Afghanistan comes from the Uzbeks and Northern alliance Pashtuns. Bestial relations also is a more of a Turkic thing, there are tons of old engravings of Mongols and Turks doing bad things to deer. There also has to be a distinction between Islamic fundamentalists and Islamists. Islamism is more of a secular ideology related to Fascism, it was founded by Sufi's not by Islamic fundamentalists. There is some overlap like certain groups in Egypt, Palestine and Iraq, but it's relegated to very specific groups. Islamists are the more hypocritical group, they tend to use Islam as a tool and often allow drug use etc among their soldiers; however IS has also allowed this somewhat but it was more orchestrated (see IS use of amphetamines).
    İ dont care about İslam but Turks are strongly opposed about homosexuality which isn't a part of their culture. These kind of deviancies are more related with settled nations not nomads. Ibn Fadlan( Arab traveler) tells it in his book how Tengriist Turks punished a Persian merchant who involved homo sexual activity. Without proof these are all claims led by hurt feelings against Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Not particularly true. Turkic peoples and Sufis were more tolerant of homosexuality. Sufism isn't really Islam it's more of an offshoot of Islam. The pics of the Afghanis really doesn't mean they are homo's. Eye liner and hand holding is not taboo in the Islamic world as it is in the western world. Most the homosexual activity in Afghanistan comes from the Uzbeks and Northern alliance Pashtuns. Bestial relations also is a more of a Turkic thing, there are tons of old engravings of Mongols and Turks doing bad things to deer. There also has to be a distinction between Islamic fundamentalists and Islamists. Islamism is more of a secular ideology related to Fascism, it was founded by Sufi's not by Islamic fundamentalists. There is some overlap like certain groups in Egypt, Palestine and Iraq, but it's relegated to very specific groups. Islamists are the more hypocritical group, they tend to use Islam as a tool and often allow drug use etc among their soldiers; however IS has also allowed this somewhat but it was more orchestrated (see IS use of amphetamines).
    İ dont care about İslam but Turks are strongly opposed about homosexuality which isn't a part of their culture. These kind of deviancies are more related with settled nations not nomads. Ibn Fadlan( Arab traveler) tells it in his book how Tengriist Turks punished a Persian merchant who involved homo sexual activity. Without proof these are all claims led by hurt feelings against Turks.

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    Nope. Homosexuality is completely haram

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