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Thread: Which of these countries had greater Celtic influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    How celtic are Swiss Italians and North Italians genetically? Like 60%? 80%?

    I was about to open a thread to ask this question because Vahaduo K13 models me as Belarusian+Swiss Italian+Balkan, when I remove swiss italian from the source I get north italians instead. Maybe my keltic admixture was picked up as Scottish/Irish/Welsh on my myheritage result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Germany.

    Southern Germany is heavily Celtic genetically, and part of the Celtic homeland. Parts of the Netherlands are also heavily Celtic.
    Celtic Homeland is Central Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    I suppose based on genetic studies and cultural origin.
    Which are the genetic studies that measure celticness? And what is celtic cultural origin? How is it defined?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Por curiosidad de esas tradiciones celtas que no te gustan incluye la tauromaquia?
    Si hablamos de la nación mas celta genéticamente probablemente es Gales seguido de Irlanda,Islas de Man, Escocia, Bretańa y Cornuales.
    Si hablamos de la nación celta mas cultural es primero Irlanda seguido de Gales, Islas de Man, Escocia, Suroeste de Inglaterra, Noroeste de Francia.
    No sabia que la tauromaquia era de origen celta, creia que era de origen romano. Sin lugar a dudas es una de las tradiciones que mas me disgusta que siga existiendo, al igual que la matanza de ballenas en Islandia o lo del festival de perros en China. Me referia mas a tradiciones como usar galgos para la caza, a mi no me gusta porque se sabe que algunos galgueros, cuando su perro ya no sirve como utencilio de caza, ya sea porque esta medio viejo o ya no lo quieren mantener, lo cuelgan de un arbol, a mi por esas cosas no me gusta, no me opongo como tal a la caza pero a los galgos si.

    En que te basas para decir que Gales es la mas celta? Por curiosidad. Culturalmente no hay duda alguna, son los que mantienen un idioma celta y tradiciones a la vez, estos serian Gales, Irlanda, Escocia, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    Which are the genetic studies that measure celticness? And what is celtic cultural origin? How is it defined?
    Grace recently, O Malley showed a map and a genetic study on the DNA of the Irish and Europeans says to find out their origin from the Celts, I do not remember the name.
    On Google there are maps of the halogroups (although that doesn't say anything about the Celts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    Which are the genetic studies that measure celticness? And what is celtic cultural origin? How is it defined?
    Grace recently, O Malley showed a map and a genetic study on the DNA of the Irish and Europeans says to find out their origin from the Celts, I do not remember the name.
    On Google there are maps of the halogroups (although that doesn't say anything about the Celts)

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    Where's France ? You put Greece that wasn't a Celtic area, and then you forget France that was home to several Celtic tribes, that has seen this year, many new "Celtic" samples from a study released on March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    I even dont consider them more Celtic than Spain and Portugal, which just are Celtiberian while the first would be Angloceltic.
    I have a Celtic first name and surname, and my mother's first language is Celtic, how many Iberians can say the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    I would like to know how people measuring this, "Culturally and Genetically".
    It stands to reason that people from what were the core Celtic territories would have more Celtic influence, genetically and likely culturally too.




    If France was an option everyone would say that, and the mostly Gaulish French overlap heavily with SW Germans (hence the French & German category on 23andme).
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    Germany is a lot more Celtic than people realize or care to mention
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