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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    Are you okay in the head. This is serious question.
    Nauraa. When arguments run out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Freedom of paying taxes was not for ever. I can't now remember the exact law form, I can find it from my book shell including 3 meter Finnish history books. Savonians are a new population, Karelians were once upon time Finnish, but allied later with Russians and tried to occupy Finland under Russian command.
    It was not forever, but it was originally promised forever, or sold as such.
    The biggest brunt of Russian Karelian aggression was dealt to East Finland (Savonians and Karelians). Isthmus was constant battleground for several hundred years. But here you are, a typical Ostrobothnian maggot, constantly crying about those few times in history your folk actually suffered. To you see me constantly bitching about wrongs and mistakes of history?

    You are a despicable maggot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Lol, as I wrote, read the Wiki article, Savolsksfins are a mixyure of Karelians and Saamis.

    Still in the GNW Russian side Karelians, only Katelians st yhat time, were Russian allies robbing and burning Finland. There was no Karelian in Finland after Viaborg was lost to Russia. Karelians were opportunists and went to Russian side soon they found it useful.
    Savonians are essentially Karelians indeed.

    Yes and Finnish Karelians sometimes robbed and burned Russian Karelia. Such is life.

    And you are still a maggot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    It was not forever, but it was originally promised forever, or sold as such.
    The biggest brunt of Russian Karelian aggression was dealt to East Finland (Savonians and Karelians). Isthmus was constant battleground for several hundred years. But here you are, a typical Ostrobothnian maggot, constantly crying about those few times in history your folk actually suffered. To you see me constantly bitching about wrongs and mistakes of history?

    You are a despicable maggot.
    Read that Wiki article and know who you are.

    Try to focus on matters. How do you collect taxes from army, it is conversely the civilians are taxed to support army. All men belonging to founded battalions were freed from taxes. Only land owners paid taxes and Vasa's promise was 5-10 years' freedom for all NEW farms.

    You are so confused with your force feed propaganda. Try to understand that Savolaksfinnars are not Karelian. All Savolaksfinnars, as well as Ostrobothnians, fell into battlefields of Russian and opportunist Karelians. This nonsense about East Finnish - Karelian origin has blown too many heads, unfortunately.

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    Of course Savolaksfinnars are Finns today, in a ssme meaning as Irish Americans are Americans. Before becoming Americans they were Irish or mixed something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Read that Wiki article and know who you are.

    Try to focus on matters. How do you collect taxes from army, it is conversely the civilians are taxed to support army. All men belonging to founded battalions were freed from taxes. Only land owners paid taxes and Vasa's promise was 5-10 years' freedom for all NEW farms.

    You are so confused with your force feed propaganda. Try to understand that Savolaksfinnars are not Karelian. All Savolaksfinnars, as well as Ostrobothnians, fell into battlefields of Russian and opportunist Karelians. This nonsense about East Finnish - Karelian origin has blown too many heads, unfortunately.
    I really shouldn't have any discussions with old guy suffering from mental health problems, but tell me: what force feed propaganda?

    Yes Savonians are Karelians



    Also Kalevala is based on Karelian Songs. No matter how much you try paint white into black, this fact will never change, and your pseudohistory babble will eventually be forgotten. And even now, nobody cares about your lies and distortions.

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    http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/20...mental-health/

    A healthy mind in a health body.” It’s a saying that is often tossed around when discussing the link between exercise and brain health. Many studies have shown that exercise can improve cognitive performance. In a new study, researchers asked if body strength could be used to predict brain health.

    Hand grip strength has been used in a variety of studies to assess cardiovascular health, mortality rates, general quality of life, and cognition. This research group used grip strength as a metric to assess cognitive performance. The study compared a general population sample set of 475,397 individuals and schizophrenic sample set of 1,162. With such a large sample size, researchers were able to account for confounding variables (gender, age, education, and geographic location) with confidence. They found that grip strength was strongly correlated with visual memory, reaction time, number memory, and prospective memory in the general population. Within the schizophrenic population, grip strength was only closely correlated to visual memory and reaction time.

    The results strongly suggest that grip strength is a solid indicator of one’s mental health and could be used to identify problems before other symptoms become noticeable. Additionally, previous studies only examined this correlation in adults above 55 years old. This study examined a larger age group, between 40 and 69, meaning that the grip strength metric could be used to assess all adults, rather than just the elderly. However, this study didn’t address other confounding variables such as recent illnesses, sleep schedule, exercise routines, or smoking, which will likely have a large impact on the results. Future studies are needed to address these additional factors.

    Can I ask what is your grip strength? I can guarantee my grip strength is off the charts. I'm real life popeye


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    Oh, you are even more confused than I suggested. As to the Finnish North Karelia, all history books tell that it was settled by Savolaksfinnars and very late because the area was one of latest occupied by Sweden. Most Russian era North Karelians fled to Russia before the Swedish occupation. This means that nowadays Finnish North Karelians belong to the same stock with other Karelian-Saami mixtures. The real Karelia is in Russia. Here is a map, among thousands similar maps showing Karelian regions.



    Finnish North Karelia just above the West Karelia title.

    p.s.

    I like to rant with you because you have balls to express youself. You are not like those ladies, you know them, but try to focus on matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Only land owners paid taxes and Vasa's promise was 5-10 years' freedom for all NEW farms.
    You can go fight with Pekka Ervasti on this

    https://twitter.com/ErvastiPekka/sta...78425170980865

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    You can go fight with Pekka Ervasti on this

    https://twitter.com/ErvastiPekka/sta...78425170980865
    This mulqvist looks pretty Ostrobothnian. You can't trust him.


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