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Thread: E1b1b in South Europeans belongs to four different subclades

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    Just one question: if I get my 23andme data and use that on the MorleyDNA Y-SNP Subclade predictor, is it possible to go down to find a more specific subclade? I know that my paternal haplogroup is E-V13 but I don't really have any other information on it.

    I know there are tests specifically for Y-DNA but I didn't want to spend that much and so on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris596 View Post
    Just one question: if I get my 23andme data and use that on the MorleyDNA Y-SNP Subclade predictor, is it possible to go down to find a more specific subclade? I know that my paternal haplogroup is E-V13 but I don't really have any other information on it.

    I know there are tests specifically for Y-DNA but I didn't want to spend that much and so on...
    If you got your E-V13 in Morley´s predictor using MyHeritage raw data,with 23andMe raw data will give you one step further (at most) or it will remain the same (usually).

    Don´t forget to use Cladefinder also to compare both results.

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    If you have the 23andme raw data and want to manually find out your subclade, you have to browse the snps of Y-DNA or mtDNA chromosomes and check if you have the mutations. You have to cross-check them with a database like ybrowse or genetic homeland from where you can see the characteristic mutations for all haplogroups. For example, if the mutation is A -> C for a haplogroup and you have the ancestral allele A then you are negative for a haplogroup and if you have the derived allele C then your are positive for a haplogroup. The ancestral is on the left and your allele is on the right. If you are positive for a subclade there is no need to check for its parent haplogroup but you can do it anyway.
    When checking for haplogroups it is a fun process but when looking for diseases you don't want to have the mutations.

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    Haplogroup E-V22 in Morocco is only found among some Moroccan Arabs Muslims and among some Moroccan Jews. It is not commonly found in Morocco at all.
    Last edited by Hashoeva; 12-19-2020 at 06:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Biaka, Dinka, San and Pygmy?
    All those groups got their original Y-DNA replaced by the Bantu E carriers.

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    E-V13 E1b1b1a1b1a (South-East Europe)
    E-V22 E1b1b1a1b2 (East Africa)
    E-M81 E1b1b1b1a (North-West Africa)
    E-M123 E1b1b1b2a1 (Fertile Crescent)

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    Haplogroup E-V22 in Morocco is only found among some Moroccan Arabs Muslims and among some Moroccan Jews. It is not commonly found in Morocco. Haplogroup E-V22 is mostly found in North East of Egypt, in the Levant like Palestine, Lebanon, etc.

    The Levis tribe of the Samaritans is an example of E-V22 rooted in the Levant. So haplogroup E-V22 was also the haplogroup of the ancient Israelite tribes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hashoeva View Post
    Haplogroup E-V22 in Morocco is only found among some Moroccan Arabs Muslims and among some Moroccan Jews. It is not commonly found in Morocco. Haplogroup E-V22 is mostly found in North East of Egypt, in the Levant like Palestine, Lebanon, etc.

    The Levis tribe of the Samaritans is an example of E-V22 rooted in the Levant. So haplogroup E-V22 was also the haplogroup of the ancient Israelite tribes.
    I think we already understood calm down pls

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM78GREENSAVANNAH View Post
    All those groups got their original Y-DNA replaced by the Bantu E carriers.
    The best thread about E1b1b, gotta love that title
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?209471-Haplogroup-E1b-Nigger-or-West-Eurasian
    Yes, it is Niger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hashoeva View Post
    Haplogroup E-V22 in Morocco is only found among some Moroccan Arabs Muslims and among some Moroccan Jews. It is not commonly found in Morocco. Haplogroup E-V22 is mostly found in North East of Egypt, in the Levant like Palestine, Lebanon, etc.

    The Levis tribe of the Samaritans is an example of E-V22 rooted in the Levant. So haplogroup E-V22 was also the haplogroup of the ancient Israelite tribes.

    E-V22 is more Afro-Asiatic than it is Semitic. That’s why in both ancient and present times it’s center is around Egypt. Sure some of them spilled into surrounding areas in significant quantity.

    Original semites were probably some off shoot subclade of E-Z827(Natufian branch) that got completely replaced by J in the Bronze Age.

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