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    For the same reason people have invented deities long before monotheism: It's reassuring. There's a comfort in knowing that your actions have consequence and that a creator is watching everything. Life would be insignificant without God, and our morality would lose all basis and crumble within a few generations. What would you gain from questioning God's existence if you can never prove or disprove it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joso View Post
    Then how do you explain:
    1-The appearance of planoccipital and big frontal lobe people, specially among elites. A look that is related with being too much reasonable but too little empathetic;
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe#Function There you go, no need to invoke alien interventions. We have evolved to be the long term planning social species and the role of the frontal lobe for that is self-explanatory.

    2-Striking similarities in different civilizations, including physical appearance;
    That should be obvious. In short, they were all human societies put under earthly conditions and as such they had to deal with similar problems like who is in charge, how to handle trade, law, military etc. Those are all neccessary things to consider and as some ways to do that are better than other ones, a degree of social convergence is to be expected and that's including the role of religion. As for physical appearance, I guess you mean architecture. Well, obviously geometrical shape of a structure and its convenience either to build or to use are related. Humans are not that dumb not to figure out what's comparatively easy to build and/or convenient to use, so again, you will expect convergence. For example the reason why we see pyramids being built by unrelated civilizations isn't cultural, it's simply because it's the easiest shape to build for a large structure if it's supposed to be stable.

    3-How extremely ancient civilizations were so advanced in things like astrology and spirituality, which are very important things.
    For the most part, it's because humans have a need for easy answers and they couldn't know much better back then. Plus, we as a species also want to feel special, so most are eager to accept poetic explanations without much questioning, instead of naturalistic ones. And you can only expect those to get more complex over time.

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    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence...
    That only applies in certain cases. If your claim is such that the evidence is expected - as would be in the case of ancient aliens scenario - the absence of evidence is actually the evidence of absence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    What you gain from questioning god?

    N O T H I N G
    You gain freedom and one less reason to develope neurosis from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skjaldemjøden View Post
    For the same reason people have invented deities long before monotheism: It's reassuring. There's a comfort in knowing that your actions have consequence and that a creator is watching everything. Life would be insignificant without God, and our morality would lose all basis and crumble within a few generations. What would you gain from questioning God's existence if you can never prove or disprove it?
    You do need your God to display ethical behaviour. People invent deities and religions to control other people, to maintain certain hierarchy for the most part. On the rest I concur; people just feel lonely and are often in need of a higher being, and in the past where they couldn't comprehend something they would offer themselves mythological-divine explainings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    It just amazes me how stuff like this is seen as more logical than creationism.
    I am a proponent of Nietzsche's 'Time is a flat circle' theory that explains it for me. It makes our lifes more absurd, but why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe#Function There you go, no need to invoke alien interventions. We have evolved to be the long term planning social species and the role of the frontal lobe for that is self-explanatory.
    yes, but there is the "planoccipital detail" as well, i was reffering to the elongated craniums that appeared on different cultures.
    humans are not all the same. many humans still don't plain much and live primitive lifes.

    That should be obvious. In short, they were all human societies put under earthly conditions and as such they had to deal with similar problems like who is in charge, how to handle trade, law, military etc. Those are all neccessary things to consider and as some ways to do that are better than other ones, a degree of social convergence is to be expected and that's including the role of religion. As for physical appearance, I guess you mean architecture. Well, obviously geometrical shape of a structure and its convenience either to build or to use are related. Humans are not that dumb not to figure out what's comparatively easy to build and/or convenient to use, so again, you will expect convergence. For example the reason why we see pyramids being built by unrelated civilizations isn't cultural, it's simply because it's the easiest shape to build for a large structure if it's supposed to be stable.
    there are more similarities, like the belief on reptile gods and elongated craniums, again, this is what i meant by appearance.
    about the pyramids: symbol manipulation is linked to the parietal lobe, interestingly all civilizations that built pyramids had elongated parietals. it is too much coincidence, no?

    For the most part, it's because humans have a need for easy answers and they couldn't know much better back then. Plus, we as a species also want to feel special, so most are eager to accept poetic explanations without much questioning, instead of naturalistic ones. And you can only expect those to get more complex over time.
    or maybe because naturalistic answers can be spiritual as well...

    That only applies in certain cases. If your claim is such that the evidence is expected - as would be in the case of ancient aliens scenario - the absence of evidence is actually the evidence of absence.
    i don't really claim it, i only propose. and there are many evidences, i already posted some.
    logic matters more than just evidences, evidences can be manipulated.
    if evolution was just a matter of survival, i doubt we would even get to the point we are. because there would be no reason to live and gerate descendants in such a crude world...
    anunnaki theory came across as pretty logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    If God does not exist, how do they explain paranormal events and react when God is summoned?
    By paranormal you mean ghosts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    By paranormal you mean ghosts?

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    No only ghosts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    No only ghosts.
    Could be entities from parallel worlds/dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    Could be entities from parallel worlds/dimensions.

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    Exactly, the paranormal doesn't just encompass ghosts.

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