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    I think it has to do with exposure. The countries in the Balkan region where people are allegedly taller on average are rather small and people usually do not have the means to travel across Europe so they remain rather unknown. The Balkan peninsula is still the most obscure region in the continent. We get more exposure from the Northern countries.

    I also feel people tend to overreact over the averages in Europe, there is obviously regional differences but they are not as drastic as people tend to portray them (realistically the average gap for the most part is from 1 to 4 centimetres at most from one country to another). I have traveled through many different countries in Europe and I never felt that I was shorter than average and I measure only 180 centimetres.

    The exception being from my experience the Netherlands. They are indeed significantly taller than the average. I get that in the Balkan peninsula there is also tall people but it seems to be mostly exclusive to men, whereas among the Dutch that rule seems to apply as well to women. I have never seen such a disproportional amount of women who are taller than 185 centimetres as among the Dutch.

    Also the average is just the average, does not mean everyone will be within its range. Some of the shortest members in the forum are actually Dutch or from the Balkans. Portugal has one of the shortest averages but at least half of the Portuguese members in here are over 180 centimetres.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    What discipline has to do with height?
    Correct daily routine, balanced food, regular physical activity, absence of masturbation (important, since the body is still growing).
    There is no evidence, but perhaps all this together allows you to reveal your genetic potential more fully.

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    edit: double post.
    Last edited by Universe; 08-04-2020 at 12:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    Correct daily routine, balanced food, regular physical activity, absence of masturbation (important, since the body is still growing).
    There is no evidence, but perhaps all this together allows you to reveal your genetic potential more fully.
    Why would masturbation hinder growth? I've never heard about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Why would masturbation hinder growth? I've never heard about that.
    The body spends a huge amount of resources on the reproduction of sperm, instead of wasting them on the development of the body in the male pattern. Male mental qualities are also often underdeveloped.
    How to distinguish an avid masturbator - he is usually sluggish, not assertive, avoids conflicts, avoids women, is often (but not always) deprived of facial and body hair, plus fat is often deposited in the lower body (female type).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    The body spends a huge amount of resources on the reproduction of sperm, instead of wasting them on the development of the body in the male pattern. Male mental qualities are also often underdeveloped.
    How to distinguish an avid masturbator - he is usually sluggish, not assertive, avoids conflicts, avoids women, is often (but not always) deprived of facial and body hair, plus fat is often deposited in the lower body (female type).
    Sperm breaks down in the body if you don't ejaculate and the body is always producing new ones anyway. No?

    So sex hinders body development too then? Phsyiologically it's no different than masturbation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    The body spends a huge amount of resources on the reproduction of sperm, instead of wasting them on the development of the body in the male pattern. Male mental qualities are also often underdeveloped.
    How to distinguish an avid masturbator - he is usually sluggish, not assertive, avoids conflicts, avoids women, is often (but not always) deprived of facial and body hair, plus fat is often deposited in the lower body (female type).
    While it is correct that semen is the most essential fluid deriving from the digested food a man has eaten, in a concentrated form, and therefore more valuable than blood, I doubt that onanism hinders growth.

    It hinders muscle growth and beard growth (body hair growth is not influenced by it as far as I know) and growth can actually be reduced by testosterone, which is of course decreased by onanism.

    From my anecdotal experience, many of the onanists I've seen are tall and skinny.

    The telltale sign of an onanist is not having any body fat or muscle growth at all-the body is unable to hold any substances due to the constant release of its most valuable fluid and starts breaking down itself, starting with the excessive fat, the muscle mass next, and finally the organs. Onanism during puberty leads to the body not fully developing-bones staying small etc. but not necessarily to a decrease in height, because as I've already mentioned, lower testosterone might increase growth (length not width) during puberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Sperm breaks down in the body if you don't ejaculate and the body is always producing new ones anyway. No?

    So sex hinders body development too then? Phsyiologically it's no different than masturbation.
    Ejaculation for males, yes, which is why it is truly damaging for a young boy to have intercourse. It's not just the psychological damage, but the physiological damage that such a lifestyle can induce, especially during puberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Sperm breaks down in the body if you don't ejaculate and the body is always producing new ones anyway. No?
    The sperm renewal process is a natural cycle for the body that occurs about once a week or two, usually during sleep. Without affecting the psyche. And masturbators watch porn and jerk off every day fust of boredom, damaging their ability to communicate with women and preventing the body from recovering.
    Do you consider these 2 processes to be the same?
    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    So sex hinders body development too then? Phsyiologically it's no different than masturbation.
    Sex is totally different. Compare your mood after sex and masturbation.
    During sex, there is a hormonal and emotional exchange between partners, plus the man experiences some sense of "victory". Regular sex leads to a more complete disclosure of a person's genetic and psychological potential, in contrast to masturbation.

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    most greeks i know are pretty tall for the most part, men and women. my family is relatively average I would say:

    paternal grandfather- 172 cm
    paternal grandmother- 152 cm
    my dad- 178 cm
    maternal grandfather- 170(?) cm
    maternal grandmother- 160 cm
    my mom- 158 cm
    mom's brother- 185 cm

    me- 166 cm

    my brother is 12 and he's 157 cm but I assume he'll be taller than our dad when he's older
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