Why do people think northern europeans are neccesarily taller than southerners?

[Zeno]

Are these self reported? 1m80+ for Italy is BS, it'd be questionable even for Südtirol.

Germans / Dutch are the only people that stand out in my experience - rest is fake news

For Greece it's an official study. And it corresponds to reality, as my generation, which is reported on the board, is indeed that tall on average.

[Wehrmacht]

Most attractive males, according to the number of responses by females on dating apps, are above 5'10" or 177.8cm.

There are also positive correlations between height and intelligence, looks, and success.

That being said, height is fairly unimportant considering the bigger picture of a human being. But it has some relevance.

This. I'm glad we found some common ground on this subject

[Cristiano viejo]

Southern Italians, Portuguese, Spaniards are noticeably shorter than Northern Europeans. It is confirmed by studies and also it is visible in daily life.

We are shorter, not noticeably shorter. Also why do you stop with these countries? why do you not include Polackolandia, France, Romania or Hungary, quoting a few, dear Polack?

Yet Southern Italians, Portuguese and Spaniards conquered the world, North Europeans did not, and yet Spain defeats all them in basket

[Götterfunke]

We are shorter, not noticeably shorter. Also why do you stop with these countries? why do you not include Polackolandia, France, Romania or Hungary, quoting a few, dear Polack?

Yet Southern Italians, Portuguese and Spaniards conquered the world, North Europeans did not, and yet Spain defeats all them in basket

While the Conquistadores were certainly impressive, the biggest empire the world has ever seen was the British, not the Italian, not the Spanish, and certainly not the Portuguese empire.

[Cristiano viejo]

While the Conquistadores were certainly impressive, the biggest empire the world has ever seen was the British, not the Italian, not the Spanish, and certainly not the Portuguese empire.

British empire is based in ruling 10 years here, 20 years there, 50 years in other African shithole... while Spanish empire lasted 400 large years.
Being bigger does not mean being better.

[Zeno]

While the Conquistadores were certainly impressive, the biggest empire the world has ever seen was the British, not the Italian, not the Spanish, and certainly not the Portuguese empire.

Spaniards ruled over an empire which was almost as big as Britain's. Their grave mistake was that Spaniards didn't colonise them en masse, so that Latin America could be 90+% European.

[Cristiano viejo]

Spaniards ruled over an empire which was almost as big as Britain's. Their grave mistake was that Spaniards didn't colonise them en masse, so that Latin America could be 90+% European.

Not a mistake, just Spain did not have the enough human material to do it.

[Götterfunke]

British empire is based in ruling 10 years here, 20 years there, 50 years in other African shithole... while Spanish empire lasted 400 large years.
Being bigger does not mean being better.

If the duration is more important than the size, the Holy Roman Empire of the German nation lasted for over one thousand years.

Either way, the Conquistadores remain impressive-but not the most impressive.

[Damião de Góis]

The certainly not the Portuguese Empire lasted 584 years and and wasn't that small.

[Maria Sharapova]

I wonder are there any statistis of different ethnics:

1.) the average sizes and weights of just born babies (both genders)
2.) sickness frequency of babies (let me say .... first 4 years)?

... those might influence.

Low birth weight is associated with a 2 cm reduction in height on average. Possibly because smaller babies produce slightly lower amounts of growth hormone. I was born very premature and I wonder if it had any influence on my height.

As far as infection frequency in early years is concerned, a twin study found:

Measures of childhood infection were associated with height difference in monozygotic twin pairs, independent of genome, birth length, and available measures of diet.

The twin with more maternally reported episodes of childhood illness was approximately 2 times as likely to be the shorter twin. Because most questions to mothers were related to infections, (e.g., frequency of antibiotic use and febrile illness), and since those with chronic disease had been excluded, infections probably accounted for the majority of reported illnesses. The association was strongest for infections during the toddler years, when the difference in height usually appeared, and was independent of birth length and weight. In this study of monozygotic twins, the association between illness in the early years and adult height was independent of heritable factors, childhood social class, and parental behavior.

Childhood infection is significantly associated with height differences in monozygotic twins, independent of genetics, socioeconomic status, parental behavior, and available indicators of nutrition. Although the relationship between childhood infections and growth has been studied extensively in developing countries, the results suggest a relationship between childhood infections and adult height in a generally healthy, economically developed population.

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/178/4/551/232029