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    Post ADNTRO-New DNA testing company

    https://www.adntro.com/en/

    There is a new company that does saliva kits and DNA uploads for EUR 15. They use the Illumina Global Screening Array which is what 23andMe V5 uses and is a little better for E Eurasian variation. The older 23andMe V3 and V4 used the Illumina Omni Express Array which was more geared for W Eurasian variation.

    IMO the best Illumina arrays are the Multi-Ethnic array which genotypes 1.8 million SNPs but DNA companies don't use them because they are more expensive.

    IMO for Asian variation the Illumina Asian array is best but I haven't seen any company use it.

    Anyways if you were genotyped on 23andme V5 you'll get the most accurate results here because both 23andme V5 and ADNTRO use the same Illumina Global Screening Array.

    They also give you reaction to various medications and disease propensity.



    As far as admixture results I'm not sure which ethnic groups they used for references but here are results of a couple of Iraqi Kurmanji Kurds which are typical Kurdish results in Iraq.



    Kurd-Kurmanji-Iraq 23andme V5 data which should be slightly more accurate than the next Kurd which is V4 data.

    I think the admixture wheel percentages are off because they don't match the table


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    Another kurmanji kurd result from Iraq. This one is 23andme V4 so slightly less accurate than the above 23andme V5 because V5 and ADNTRO both use the same Illumina Global Screening array. Wheel chart seems off

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    I'll try it later.
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    Uploaded my 23andme V5 data and eh, the result is taken with a grain of salt. What seperates East Euro, North East Euro, and Central Euro? Is East Euro like Ukraine? It also seems too diverse. I'm not sure how I can be 16% Scandinavian with 0 modern ancestral connections to Scandinavia, but 0% MENA with 12.5% connections to MENA countries. Not sure it was worth €15

    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
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    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    Uploaded my 23andme V5 data and eh, the result is taken with a grain of salt. What seperates East Euro, North East Euro, and Central Euro? Is East Euro like Ukraine? It also seems too diverse. I'm not sure how I can be 16% Scandinavian with 0 modern ancestral connections to Scandinavia, but 0% MENA with 12.5% connections to MENA countries. Not sure it was worth €15


    These are their references

    Karitiana Amerindian
    GreatBritain British Isles
    Orcadian British Isles
    Abkhazian Caucasian
    Balkar Caucasian
    Kumyks Caucasian
    Lezgins Caucasian
    Nogais Caucasian
    Tabassaran Caucasian
    Turks Caucasian
    Croat Central European
    Hungarians Central European
    Cambodians Chinese & Southeast Asian
    Dai Chinese & Southeast Asian
    Vietnamese Chinese & Southeast Asian
    Miaozu Chinese & Southeast Asian
    Papuan Chinese & Southeast Asian
    Xibo Chinese & Southeast Asian
    Ethiopians East African
    Japanese East Asian
    Bulgarian East Balkan
    Gagauz East Balkan
    Moldavian East Balkan
    Romanian East Balkan
    Daur East Central Asian
    Kirghiz East Central Asian
    Mongol East Central Asian
    Oroqen East Central Asian
    Tajik East Central Asian
    Turkmen East Central Asian
    Uygur East Central Asian
    Uzbeks East Central Asian
    Yagnobi East Central Asian
    Lithuanians East Central European
    Pole East Central European
    Russian East Central European
    Selkups Eastern European
    Tatar Eastern European
    Ukranians Eastern European
    French French & German
    German French & German
    Cypriots Greek & West Balkan
    Greek Greek & West Balkan
    Sicily Greek & West Balkan
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    Sardinian Italian
    Italian Italian
    Tuscan Italian
    Ashkenazi_Jew Levantine
    Druze Levantine
    Iranians Levantine
    Jordanians Levantine
    Lebanese Levantine
    Palestinian Levantine
    Samaritans Levantine
    Saudis Levantine
    Syrians Levantine
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    Bedouin North East African
    Egyptians North East African
    Ethiopian_Jew North East African
    Libya_Jew North East African
    Moroccan_Jew North East African
    Moroccans North East African
    Mozabite North East African
    Sephardic_Jew North East African
    Tunisina_Jew North East African
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    Belorussian North East European
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    Chuvash North East European
    Finn North East European
    Maris North East European
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    Chukchi Siberian
    Evenk Siberian
    Komi Siberian
    Koryak Siberian
    Mordovians Siberian
    Nenet Siberian
    Yakut Siberian
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    Gujrati South Asian
    Telegu South Asian
    Kalash South Asian
    Kol South Asian
    Kurmi South Asian
    Kurumba South Asian
    Mumbaian_Jew South Asian
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    Chamar South Asian
    Velamas South Asian
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    Brahui South Central Asian
    Burusho South Central Asian
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    Their references are groupped by imbecile. This is why I removed my previous thread about this company when I was informed about it. I'm ashamed I created this thread...
    This is why people got random values from other continents...

    Let's see: Belarusian and Buriats in one group, Ukrainians and Selkups, Mordovians and Yakuts, Yizu and Indians, Tajiks and Mongols, Baloch and Bengali, and many more....
    Oh and Turks in Caucasus group but Armenian in Anatolian.
    Every TA member active in genetic threads would group it better.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    They references are groupped by imbecile. This is why I removed my previous thread about this company when I was informed about it. I'm ashamed I created this thread...
    This is why people got random values from other continents
    Grace O'Malley's result was 0% British Isles (which until yesterday was called 'Britain & Ireland & West France & North Iberia'), but she got lots of Iberian and Italian. When she queried the result the she got an answer in poor English from someone called 'William Bateson' (keep in mind this site is based in Spain), who of course was one of the eminent figures in the history of genetics.

    Possibly the worst scam DNA site I've seen yet, but people like flushing money down the toilet I guess, as we've seen with MyTrueAncestry.
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Grace O'Malley's result was 0% British Isles (which until yesterday was called 'Britain & Ireland & West France & North Iberia'), but she got lots of Iberian and Italian. When she queried the result the she got an answer in poor English from someone called 'William Bateson' (keep in mind this site is based in Spain), who of course was one of the eminent figures in the history of genetics.

    Possibly the worst scam DNA site I've seen yet, but people like flushing money down the toilet I guess, as we've seen with MyTrueAncestry.
    I gave them a chance because usually I appear as crtitic of most of such websites on every forum, so I want to change my mind Anyway I should be critic still... I'm ashamed I wasted money on it. But I tried.

    was called 'Britain & Ireland & West France & North Iberia'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    They references are groupped by imbecile. This is why I removed my previous thread about this company when I was informed about it. I'm ashamed I created this thread...
    This is why people got random values from other continents...

    Let's see: Belarusian and Buriats in one group, Ukrainians and Selkups, Mordovians and Yakuts, Yizu and Indians, Tajiks and Mongols, Baloch and Bengali, and many more....
    Oh and Turks in Caucasus group but Armenian in Anatolian.
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    Yeah what’s up with that? I wonder if that’s a mistake but for the 2 kurdish samples especially the one with 23andme v5 the results were sensible.To their credit both kurds didn’t get Italian like what 23andme or some companies assign. They both got larger E Balkan followed by W Balkan which makes better sense than Italian.

    The high C Asian is also reasonable since 2 Tajik groups are part of that.

    Something to keep in mind though is they use the Illumina Global screening array chip just like 23andme V5 which is superior to the older Illumina Omni Exoress chip 23andme used for V3 and V4. What this means is if anyone has older 23andme V3 or V4 data the SNP overlap with the Global Screening array is poor so their results will not be as accurate.

    So people who have 23andme V5 data will get the most accurate results just like the 1st kurdish sample i posted.

    I still have no idea what they used for N Asian references I didn’t see those in their table. Also their admix wheel needs to get fixed because those % don’t line up with actual results
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    Their references are groupped by imbecile. This is why I removed my previous thread about this company when I was informed about it. I'm ashamed I created this thread...
    This is why people got random values from other continents...

    Let's see: Belarusian and Buriats in one group, Ukrainians and Selkups, Mordovians and Yakuts, Yizu and Indians, Tajiks and Mongols, Baloch and Bengali, and many more....
    Oh and Turks in Caucasus group but Armenian in Anatolian.
    Every TA member active in genetic threads would group it better.




    Wow, these are just basic geography mistakes. Since when was Bangladesh in the "Central Asia"? South Central Asia is Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan... this is bad.
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