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    A childhood friend of mine entered his raw dna results into Gedmatch and it shows mostly German rather than English. The odd thing is that he has an extensive family tree with all of his ancestors traced to their period of entry into the U.S. Four of his great-great grandparents were the children of immigrants (a French Canadian, an Irishman, a Polish woman, and a German from the Rhineland). Other than that, all of his ancestors were overwhelmingly English with the exception of a Dutchman from New Netherland and a Rhineland Palatinate.


    He was born in Northwestern Connecticut, with his family having settled there in the late XVIII century, they had come from Massachusetts and Rhode Island. His direct ancestors include members of the Winthrop fleet along with Samuel Wilbore, founder of Rhode Island. Most of the Englishmen did hail directly from Essex and East Anglia. Some of his English ancestors have family trees dating far back, and we can find individuals who have Norman ancestry along with a handful of Irish, all in the XI century.

    Also, he does have a third-great-grandfather whom was born in New York, but whose ancestors were Rhinelanders arriving in New York in 1709. Through this line he is also descended from Laurens Van Alen c1632-1714, a Dutch settler to Fort Orange, New Netherland (later Albany, NY) from Overijssel in the Netherlands.

    His French ancestors hailed mostly from Paris, along with some from Brittany and Aquitaine. He is a direct ancestor of Samuel de Champlain as well.

    Through his French Canadian ancestors, he does have a Huron 10th Great Grandmother, baptised as Marie-Olivier Sylvestre and having lived c1624 to 1665. He is descended from her more than once.

    Additionally, his Polish ancestors hail from the Tatra Mountains region of Poland, and his most recent German ancestor from Rhineland arriving in the mid-XIX century.


    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 45.54
    2 Baltic 24.41
    3 West_Med 11.78
    4 West_Asian 7.02
    5 East_Med 6.27
    6 Red_Sea 1.64
    7 Amerindian 1.30

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_German @ 4.600870
    2 West_German @ 5.133757
    3 South_Dutch @ 5.160149
    4 Danish @ 6.440634
    5 North_Dutch @ 6.489992
    6 Southeast_English @ 6.609893
    7 Orcadian @ 7.556048
    8 Irish @ 8.467581
    9 Norwegian @ 8.828136
    10 Southwest_English @ 8.843634
    11 West_Scottish @ 9.239377
    12 Swedish @ 9.550915
    13 Austrian @ 10.655293
    14 East_German @ 11.826286
    15 French @ 11.853339
    16 North_Swedish @ 14.615301
    17 Hungarian @ 15.650558
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 20.708885
    19 Serbian @ 21.479303
    20 Spanish_Galicia @ 21.869879

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_German +50% West_German @ 1.956113


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_German +25% West_German +25% West_German @ 1.956113


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Norwegian + Romanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 1.953759
    2 North_German + North_German + West_German + West_German @ 1.956113
    3 North_Dutch + North_German + West_German + West_German @ 1.977909
    4 Irish + Norwegian + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 2.015030
    5 North_German + North_German + South_Dutch + West_German @ 2.020621
    6 North_Dutch + Romanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.022540
    7 Irish + North_Dutch + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 2.051232
    8 Danish + North_German + West_German + West_German @ 2.057884
    9 Danish + Romanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.070242
    10 North_German + Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.075408
    11 Bulgarian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.085377
    12 French + North_German + North_German + North_German @ 2.090422
    13 Danish + Irish + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 2.091338
    14 North_German + Norwegian + West_German + West_German @ 2.107474
    15 Irish + North_Dutch + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 2.129807
    16 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Romanian @ 2.139234
    17 Danish + Irish + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 2.151198
    18 Danish + Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.158289
    19 North_Dutch + Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.158777
    20 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Romanian @ 2.177401

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    Looks similar to my mother's results, she is of German ancestry for the most part. Actually I would bet that this guy plots slightly more to the East.

    What are his Eurogenes K15 results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    Looks similar to my mother's results, she is of German ancestry for the most part. Actually I would bet that this guy plots slightly more to the East.

    What are his Eurogenes K15 results?

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 38.55
    2 Atlantic 21.00
    3 Eastern_Euro 9.93
    4 Baltic 9.28
    5 West_Med 9.23
    6 West_Asian 4.34
    7 East_Med 4.28
    8 Red_Sea 1.08
    9 Amerindian 1.01


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 West_German @ 5.946182
    2 Norwegian @ 7.238380
    3 North_Dutch @ 7.926069
    4 West_Norwegian @ 7.991056
    5 Danish @ 8.609366
    6 Swedish @ 8.630822
    7 Orcadian @ 9.437018
    8 Southwest_English @ 9.472092
    9 Southeast_English @ 9.818540
    10 North_German @ 10.184535
    11 West_Scottish @ 10.569569
    12 South_Dutch @ 10.843330
    13 Irish @ 10.989954
    14 North_Swedish @ 11.433857
    15 French @ 13.982924
    16 East_German @ 15.361821
    17 Southwest_Finnish @ 18.658468
    18 Hungarian @ 18.903387
    19 Austrian @ 20.811131
    20 Finnish @ 20.909729

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    That guy is an old school American (WASP). By the way, don't use Oracle-4, Oracle is much better.

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    Another person with all or nearly all ancestry from Colonial Maine in New England, with similar results.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 44.15
    2 Baltic 25.71
    3 West_Med 14.08
    4 East_Med 10.03
    5 West_Asian 3.08
    6 South_Asian 1.9
    7 East_Asian 0.65
    8 Red_Sea 0.29
    9 Siberian 0.12

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_German 4.95
    2 South_Dutch 5.11
    3 Southeast_English 7.51
    4 North_German 7.65
    5 Austrian 8.24
    6 Danish 8.56
    7 North_Dutch 8.98
    8 East_German 9.25
    9 French 9.39
    10 Orcadian 9.41
    11 Southwest_English 10.05
    12 Norwegian 10.76
    13 Swedish 10.87
    14 Irish 10.87
    15 West_Scottish 11.2
    16 Hungarian 12.29
    17 North_Swedish 13.91
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.51
    19 Serbian 16.79
    20 Spanish_Galicia 17.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 71.1% Southeast_English + 28.9% Serbian @ 3.47
    2 64.3% Southeast_English + 35.7% Hungarian @ 3.75
    3 75.4% Southeast_English + 24.6% Romanian @ 3.9
    4 78% Southeast_English + 22% Bulgarian @ 3.92
    5 67.6% Swedish + 32.4% North_Italian @ 3.98
    6 61.1% French + 38.9% North_Swedish @ 3.99
    7 89% South_Dutch + 11% Belorussian @ 4.03
    8 53.1% Southeast_English + 46.9% Austrian @ 4.03
    9 58.3% North_Swedish + 41.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.1
    10 89.5% South_Dutch + 10.5% Estonian_Polish @ 4.12
    11 75.2% Southeast_English + 24.8% Moldavian @ 4.13
    12 54.6% North_Swedish + 45.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.14
    13 73.6% Southeast_English + 26.4% Croatian @ 4.14
    14 90.8% South_Dutch + 9.2% Lithuanian @ 4.15
    15 89.7% South_Dutch + 10.3% La_Brana-1 @ 4.15
    16 89.8% South_Dutch + 10.2% Estonian @ 4.16
    17 87.9% West_German + 12.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.16
    18 86.8% South_Dutch + 13.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.17
    19 83.3% West_German + 16.7% North_Swedish @ 4.17
    20 86.7% South_Dutch + 13.3% South_Polish @ 4.22

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