England : Germanic invader vs native calculator

[PaleoEuropean]

Paleolithic for Britons....must be a paleo study then

Wasn't it Olalde (2018) that stated that the Bell Beakers replaced 90% of the Isles genes?

The Bell Beakers replaced the Southern Mesolithic peoples to some degree but that is based on archaeological record which really doesn't hold weight; in archaeology the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, but the vast majority of Paleoithic people survived in the North and in Ireland. Britain is a treasure trove of rare Paleolithic subclades. The Paleothic population was tiny, the Neolithics and Beakers probably grew their population ten fold from what it was before they arrived. The Cro-Magnons of Britain were founded by a population of no more than a dozen people who survived the Doggerland extinction events. Even the Mesolithic farmer/hg people weren't that numerous.

[Creoda]

Well, at least that implied the white British are indigenous to the isles.
Happy Indigenous Peoples' Day!

That's one way to look at it, but the angle they went for was that our national identities and origin stories were a lie.

[Folcwalding]

In the more fine-scale studies (what's necessary for these populations) like the recent Irish paper, the Insular vs Germanic drift has been made more apparent.

Thanks!! Interesting.

Basically, seen trough the lens of Davidski basic three hunter-farmer-herder, we see that from Rathlin, Nordic LNBA, Early Germanics until Finn Mom the same kind of mixtures....NO clear cut differences between the "Celtic' and 'Germanic' range!

[Folcwalding]

Well, at least that implied the white British are indigenous to the isles.
Happy Indigenous Peoples' Day!

Leto one thing is clear for me I'm interested in my genetic roots, but no superiority claims or Nordicism.

I despise people with a deviation in the right arm.....(even a reason why I hesitate to post here, some have a clear affinity.....mmm

Let that be clear!

[Folcwalding]

@Paleoeuropean

The Bell Beakers replaced the Southern Mesolithic peoples to some degree but that is based on archaeological record which really doesn't hold weight

Nope it's based on genetics!

The BB rathlin types came from Dutch/NW German area, like the later on saxons. They replaced the neolithic Isles population.

[Leto]

Leto one thing is clear for me I'm interested in my genetic roots, but no superiority claims or Nordicism.

I despise people with a deviation in the right arm.....(even a reason why I hesitate to post here, some have a clear affinity.....mmm

Let that be clear!

What are you talking about? Who said anything about Nordicism? I was talking about being native and mind you I'm not English or British. And I don't even know you, so why would I care what you like or despise. For that matter, I despise leftism and globalism, just so you know, mate.

[Folcwalding]

What are you talking about? Who said anything about Nordicism? I was talking about being native and mind you I'm not English or British. And I don't even know you, so why would I care what you like or despise. For that matter, I despise leftism and globalism, just so you know, mate.

No was just a statement! Personal reason nothing to do with you.....

I guess the 'white' factor combined with the nazi flag above was the reason, I don't want to associate me with a bunch of neo-nazi's.

For the rest all agree to disagree no problem. Let diversity rule....

[PaleoEuropean]

@Paleoeuropean


Nope it's based on genetics!

The BB rathlin types came from Dutch/NW German area, like the later on saxons. They replaced the neolithic Isles population.

The whole Aryan Invasion/Replacement theory is based off 1800's political pseudoscience. We are still in the infancy of genetics and back in 2017 Harvard did a study that showed that HG/Mesomixed Farmers just interbred. You can find not only exclusive British HG subclades in Britain but plenty of Neolithic E, J and G as well. Also Britain has some of the highest concentration of HG admixture in Europe, idk what studies or info you are going off.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...s-thought.html

[Folcwalding]

The whole Aryan Invasion/Replacement theory is based off 1800's political pseudoscience. We are still in the infancy of genetics and back in 2017 Harvard did a study that showed that HG/Mesomixed Farmers just interbred. You can find not only exclusive British HG subclades in Britain but plenty of Neolithic E, J and G as well. Also Britain has some of the highest concentration of HG admixture in Europe, idk what studies or info you are going off.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...s-thought.html

That's new for me not "das Arische Herrenvolk" pictured in your add but now we got "das Hunter Herrenvolk". ROFLOL

[Davystayn]

What is it with those bloody Saxons? lol

In an ideal world English people would match them highly and the Irish would not.

Genetics eh.

I remember those early studies saying basques basically peopled the whole of western Europe including Norway aren't lowland south eastern Scots pretty much identical to north east English?