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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    This should be quite numerous in the US, Australia etc. Not sure why it shows up at such a local point in South Africa?

    Might be boers that tested positive for that clade, which i assume is after DF13 right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    This should be quite numerous in the US, Australia etc. Not sure why it shows up at such a local point in South Africa?

    Probably Afrikaners
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    Maternal 6X Great Grandfather J1-ZS10441
    Maternal Y-DNA J1-L816

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
    Might be boers that tested positive for that clade, which i assume is after DF13 right?
    They must be Irish or Scots Boers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
    Yours belong to J2 and not J1, which is the real levantine haplogroup. Actually J2 is quite european for me, also anatolian.
    J2 is just as Levantine as J1. It all arrived from the Middle East to Europe at some point. J-L70 arrived in Europe with the Phoenicians, Jewish Diaspora, and during Imperial Rome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    J2 is just as Levantine as J1. It all arrived from the Middle East to Europe at some point. J-L70 arrived in Europe with the Phoenicians, Jewish Diaspora, and during Imperial Rome.
    Well we are all from Africa millions of years ago, but the thing is that J-L70 was spreaded by romans (specially the Z435), so it has to be considered european by history.

    This is MHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
    Well we are all from Africa millions of years ago, but the thing is that J-L70 was spreaded by romans (specially the Z435), so it has to be considered european by history.

    This is MHO.
    Yes, it was partially spread by Romans throughout continental Europe. But these men were descended from immigrants from the Levant. J-L70 is one of the sources of Levantine ancestry in Greeks and Italians. I have two threads dedicated to J-L70 on Anthrogenica - which you may be interested in viewing when they're back online. J-L70 itself was formed in the Levant during the MLBA as evidenced by the Basal branches in Jordanians and Palestinians. Many Middle Eastern subclades were spread by the Romans just like J-L70, including J1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris596 View Post
    African pride, the only question is, how did it end up in China?
    Maybe Russo-Japanese war has something to do, this war took part in that area.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War

    And could enter through:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCshunkou_District

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    Interesting tool






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    Too lazy to post the screenshot. It has a hotspot in Venice and a less intense spot in Poland, near the border with Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    J2 is just as Levantine as J1. It all arrived from the Middle East to Europe at some point. J-L70 arrived in Europe with the Phoenicians, Jewish Diaspora, and during Imperial Rome.
    True, and Arabians also descend from the J1-P58 peoples that migrated to the Arabian peninsula bringing with out both basal West Semitic and Central Semitic dialects which evolved into the numerous west Semitic languages that either belong in the basal West Semitic group called MSA(modern South Arabian) or Central Semitic dialects which evolved into the Central Semitic languages of Arabia like Old South Arabian languages, Didanitic, Hisaitic, Taymanitic(some say that it should belong in the North-West Semitic language like Hebrew and Aramaic), and last but not least the Arabic language.

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